[guide.chat] In Reply To: truth about nursery rhymes

  • From: "James Liddell" <james.liddell2@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: "GUIDE CHAT" <guide.chat@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2012 09:15:42 +0100

vanessa;
I'd suggest that 'Mary Mary' refers to Mary I of England, who produced no heir.
Mary I of Scots...Mary, Queen of Scots, did indeed produce an heir, through her 
second marriage to Henry Stewart, Lord Darnley -the child was James VI,of 
Scots, and James I of England

"Streets of Laredo" is an American country folk song written in the 1920's. It 
was itself a corruption of the English folk ballad "Pills of White mercury" 
which was about an rich English fop dying of syphilis. (that illness was, 
incidentally, brought to England along with the potato, by Walter Raleigh. ) 
White mercury was used to 'cure' the illness - commonly known as 'the pox'.  
Unfortunately, though it did help to reduce the illness, mercury is a deadly 
poison in large quantities.
If you didn't die of the disease, you died of the cure!

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How many of you know the meanings of nursery rhymes, ballads or the song lyrics 
you listen to?
Here are a few for you.

Little Jack Horner. In the reign of Henry the eighth, prior to Glastonbury 
Abbey's destruction, the abbot sent Horner to London with a huge Christmas pie. 
The Christmas pie had the deeds to a dozen manors hidden inside. During the 
journey Horner opened the pie and extracted the deeds of the manor of Mells in 
Somerset and records prove to this day that Horner became the owner of the 
manor and paid for the title, all the Horner descendants to this day deny this, 
but fact is fact and is in black and white. The plum is a pun on the Latin plum 
bum for lead, which the manor properties included lead mines in the Mendip 
Hills. Dissolution of the Monasteries was because of Horner.

Mistress Mary Quite Contrary, How Does Your Garden Grow is a nursery rhyme 
relating to Mary the first of Scotland. How does your garden grow? refers to 
her reign over her realm, a mocking reference to her womb as not producing no 
heirs. Silver bells refers to Catholic cathedral bells. Cockle shells 
insinuating her husband was unfaithful to her. Pretty maids refers to the four 
Marie's her ladies in waiting. Rows and rows refers to the burnings and 
executions of Protestants. Silver bells and cockleshells relate to the 
instruments of torture to the Protestants and because of this holds the 
nickname Bloody Mary, the same name given to tomato juice. 
Others say it is a Catholic religious allegory, with the bells representing the 
sanctuary bells. The cockleshells refers to the badges of the pilgrims to the 
shrine of Saint James in Spain. Pretty maids are the Nuns.

Ring a Ring O' Roses is related to the Great Plague of London 1665. A rosy rash 
was the plague. Posies of herbs they carried for protection. Sneezing was the 
final fatal symptom, then they all fall down dead. Ashes Ashes is the verses 
line relating to the cremation of the bodies and houses.

Pop Goes The Weasel is about pawning his coat so that he could get a drink in 
the Eagle pub. Weasel and Stoat is cockney slang for coat, which is popped or 
pawned for money for him to drink at the Eagle pub in London.
Others say the verses relate to James the first as his nickname was weevil. 
Rice and treacle are slang for potassium nitrate and charcoal. They all met up 
in the Eagle pub to plan the Gunpowder Plot. The Eagle pub is alongside 
Shepherdess Walk in London. Shepherdess Walk is just off the City Road 
mentioned in the verse.

Jack be nimble, Jack be quick, Jack jump over the candlestick refers to fortune 
telling and a sport. Good luck was signalled by clearing a candle without 
extinguishing the flame.

Humpty Dumpty is a rhyme posed as a riddle and was printed in 1810. Humpty 
Dumpty is not an egg. Humpty Dumpty is slang for a short and clumsy person. The 
riddle is a clumsy person falling off a wall, depending on the height of the 
wall, would not be irreparably damaged, an egg would be.

The Streets of Laredo is not about a cowboy dying from a bullet wound, he is 
dying from a sexually transmitted disease.

Blue Tail Fly is about a black slave ordered to keep the Blue Tail Flies away 
from the Master's horse. Blue Tail Flies swarm the horse. The horse bucks the 
Master into a ditch. The Master dies. The black slave is joyful.
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