Hi, John; You haven't been to the right Blind Club, then! I'd agree with you that many clubs are run by well meaning, but inexperienced, sighted volunteers. Maybe it's a Scottish thing, but most - though not all -Blind Clubs I've come across up here are well run affairs. My own club is an example. We - that is, five Visually Impaired People - set it up in our semi-rural area twenty five years ago to help the situation of VIPs in the area. We offer a range of speakers, entertainment, outings and activities chosen by the members, for the members. The club is run by a committee of seven - at least five of whom, including the Chairman and Vice-Chairman - must be visually impaired. As a rule, we tailor activities to suit even the most disabled member, who at this time happens to be our chairman, a lady who is both totally blind and wheelchair bound, with restricted tactile abilities. This has not cramped our style in the least - we're invading the highlands en masse shortly on a holiday crammed with activities we will all take part in. Of course, we are very grateful for those who help us, but, in essence, we, the V.I. members, always call the shots. We're also busy campaigning and taking part in local government consultative committees which make both local authorities and the community in general aware of V.I. issues; we have had quite a few successes on that front over the years. Our club, therefore, is a blend of organised insanity, informative input and bloody-minded stubbornness when it comes to authority. Not a bad mixture, on the whole! -----Original Message----- From: John Keel - Email Address: j.keel1428@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent On: 22/10/2012 23:56 Sent To: Antony Butler, Guide Chat - Email Address: antonybutler1958@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx, guide.chat@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [guide.chat] In Reply To: My Club today Hi all, I can never understand the existence of blind clubs. I have visited one or two and found them awful. Poor quality food and fourth rate entertainment. I got the impression that more satisfaction was gained from the do gooders who run them than those who attended. So far as I know, there are no clubs for people with prosthetic legs or false teeth, so why have them for people with a visual impairment? Can anyone enlighten me? John ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.2221 / Virus Database: 2441/5347 - Release Date: 10/22/12