Hi John, I beong to two organisation which are for everybody, not just for blind or vusually inpaired people. I tried the Macular Degeneration Society but was not impressed. Too much time was devoted to problems associated with the disease rarher than ways of overcoming the lack of vision. One of the organisatios I belong to is the Bolton Recorded Music Society which I helped to form 65 years ago. During this time I have presented two programmes a year to other members. The last one was last week. Guide has made it possible for me to cotinue to do this as I can now only read very large print and I need to write notes about the works I am presenting. I use scan and read to get information, then edit and print, taking out what I do not need and adding words of my own. I am afraid it takes a fair amount of ink but this is money well spent. I also do a fair amount of creative writing for another group to which I belong, again only possible because of Guide as handwriting is now out of the question However an audio book club is the only was I can share my love of reading and Guide Chat has filled an essential need in my life .I am grateful for the friendship I have received. Elizabeth -----Original Message----- From: John Keel - Email Address: j.keel1428@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent On: 22/10/2012 23:56 Sent To: Antony Butler, Guide Chat - Email Address: antonybutler1958@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx, guide.chat@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [guide.chat] In Reply To: My Club today Hi all, I can never understand the existence of blind clubs. I have visited one or two and found them awful. Poor quality food and fourth rate entertainment. I got the impression that more satisfaction was gained from the do gooders who run them than those who attended. So far as I know, there are no clubs for people with prosthetic legs or false teeth, so why have them for people with a visual impairment? Can anyone enlighten me? John