[goodfeel] Re: Swing Eighth and Lime

  • From: Bill McCann <info@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: "goodfeel@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <goodfeel@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2012 21:44:03 +0000

The following brailles eighth-note equals dotted quarter correctly.

\e \e = \qd

Note to screen reader users: text above includes the backslash symbol which 
your screen reader will not read if you have your punctuation level set to 
anything but "all."

Can you send me the exact text of the tempo annotation that does not transcribe 
properly?


Bill

-----Original Message-----
From: goodfeel-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:goodfeel-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On 
Behalf Of Data
Sent: Monday, July 30, 2012 5:24 PM
To: goodfeel@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [goodfeel] Re: Swing Eighth and Lime

Right, Bill!
Thanks for clarifying that. I'm sure we all agree on not liking swing to be 
written in triplets (although, I've seen a lot in church music written in 
compound time--6/8, 12/8, and so on. And that seems to work well especially 
with parochial musicians).

Like Bill said, I usually write in simple meter and indicate in the Tempo 
annotation "Swing". You can also use the backslash to include the
annotation: eighth-note eighth-note equals quarter-note eighth-note.

The character set for this Tempo annotation would then be, after "Swing" or 
"Swing the Eighths": backslash e backslash e equals-sign backslash q backslash e

GoodFeel will braille this correctly, too!

Isn't this fun?
-Andy

P.S. Bill, do you know how to get GF to add a dot to these notes? The period 
works in print, but GF ignores it.







-----Original Message-----
From: goodfeel-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:goodfeel-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Bill McCann
Sent: Monday, July 30, 2012 3:09 PM
To: goodfeel@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [goodfeel] Re: Swing Eighth and Lime


If your only goal is to create accurate playback, then Andy's approach is the 
way to go.  But if you want a human being to play your piece with the right 
swing interpretation, do not print that version out for that human being to 
read.  That human player might even get a bit cross with you.  :)

When you want players to apply swing to your piece, just write the word "Swing" 
in the tempo indication or at the start of the swing section.  The notation 
will look the same for both straight and swing passages.  The human reader will 
just alter his interpretation  of the notes based on the "Swing"
direction you write in the tempo indication.

Bill

-----Original Message-----
From: goodfeel-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:goodfeel-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
On Behalf Of Data
Sent: Monday, July 30, 2012 4:33 PM
To: goodfeel@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [goodfeel] Re: Swing Eighth and Lime

I've always found the best way to get swing out of Lime's playback is to just 
write the swings out in triplets. It's the same for grace notes and 
appoggiaturas, if you want them executed properly by Lime.
-Andy

-----Original Message-----
From: goodfeel-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:goodfeel-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Bill McCann
Sent: Monday, July 30, 2012 10:20 AM
To: goodfeel@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [goodfeel] Re: Swing Eighth and Lime


I went to  www.freelists.org/archive/goodfeel/ where you can search through 
years of archived posts to this list and I searched for the word "Swing".  I 
found a related post which I will link to below.  However, it does not tell you 
how to actually create the swing effect in Lime's playback.

Q.  How can I swing eighth-notes in Lime's Playback Function (CONTROL+H for
Hear)

A.  You must select the series of eighth-notes you want to swing during 
playback and apply Lime's swing beaming to them.

* Move to first note in passage.

* Hold down the SHIFT key while you press right arrow to select the notes you 
want to change.

*   Press ALT+S, W to choose the "Swing Eighth Beam" for the selected notes

* Press ESCAPE

* Move to the first note in the passage and press CONTROL+H or
CONTROL+Numpad 2 to listen to the passage.

Lime now sort of swings the phrases. As an old saying goes: Lime swings like a 
rusty gate.  For those of you who are not sure, when someone makes that comment 
about a jazz player, it is not a compliment.

Follow link below to read my comments from a couple of months ago describing 
the excellent swing options in SONAR with CakeTalking.

Here is the link I find when I search on "Swing":
www.freelists.org/post/goodfeel/Swing

Bill


-----Original Message-----
From: goodfeel-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:goodfeel-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
On Behalf Of Dani L Pagador
Sent: Sunday, July 29, 2012 10:07 AM
To: goodfeel@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [goodfeel] Swing Eighth and Lime

Hi, Everyone.
Can Lime handle the swing eighth? If so, how do I do that?
Thanks,
Dani

** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:-
** [mailto:goodfeel-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe]
** If this link doesn't work then send a message to:
** goodfeel-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
** and in the Subject line type
** unsubscribe
** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the
** immediately-following link:-
** [mailto:goodfeel-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq]
** or send a message, to
** goodfeel-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq

** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:-
** [mailto:goodfeel-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=subscribe]
** If this link doesn't work then send a message to:
** goodfeel-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
** and in the Subject line type
** unsubscribe
** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the
** immediately-following link:-
** [mailto:goodfeel-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subjectzq]
** or send a message, to
** goodfeel-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq

** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:-
** [mailto:goodfeel-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe]
** If this link doesn't work then send a message to:
** goodfeel-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
** and in the Subject line type
** unsubscribe
** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the
** immediately-following link:-
** [mailto:goodfeel-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq]
** or send a message, to
** goodfeel-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq

** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:-
** [mailto:goodfeel-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=subscribe]
** If this link doesn't work then send a message to:
** goodfeel-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
** and in the Subject line type
** unsubscribe
** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the
** immediately-following link:-
** [mailto:goodfeel-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subjectzq]
** or send a message, to
** goodfeel-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq

** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:-
** [mailto:goodfeel-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe]
** If this link doesn't work then send a message to:
** goodfeel-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
** and in the Subject line type
** unsubscribe
** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the
** immediately-following link:-
** [mailto:goodfeel-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq]
** or send a message, to
** goodfeel-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq

** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:-
** [mailto:goodfeel-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe]
** If this link doesn't work then send a message to:
** goodfeel-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
** and in the Subject line type
** unsubscribe
** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the
** immediately-following link:-
** [mailto:goodfeel-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subjectúq]
** or send a message, to
** goodfeel-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq

Other related posts: