Hi, Adel,
I dont have a specific example in front of me; but ill set up a verbal
diagram which should explain what I mean:
In 2/4 time on beat 1 you want C, E, G as a triad. You want C and G to be
held as half-notes, but you want the E as a quarter to move to D quarter.
If on a keyboard you press C E G then hold C and G while moving to the D,
you will end up with C, D, E, and G to be played at the same point in time.
I have found two solutions to this one: The obvious first one would be to
use two voices with one playing C and G as half notes; the other having E
quarter followed by D quarter. My second, perhaps knobby approach at least
in some minds, is to score C, E, G as quareer-notes, then C, D, G also as
quarter notes. You then tie the first C and G quarter-notes to their second
occurrence.
That setup will play properly thus: When the chord is first played, all
three notes will sound; the tie on the C and G notes will keep them held
while the E quarter moves to the D quarter on beat 2 of the little 2/4
example. I have used both of the above methods as the particular piece
might suit me. If I have a bunch of those moving parts, Ill probably set
up another voice to handle them. If I already have something scored and I
discover that a note is being repeated when I didnt want that, Ill just go
to that point and enter a tie by pressing 9 on the typewriter keyboard and
poof, the situation is fixed.
I hope this somewhat lengthy explanation gives you an idea of what I mean
and how I deal with moving notes in a score.
on the
From: goodfeel-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <goodfeel-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> On
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Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2020 9:54 PM
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Subject: [goodfeel] Re: Issue with the Right Hand's The Three Notes
Hi David and the community,
May I be sure of something, please? Do you mean that those three notes held
in the right hand were written as counterpoint symbols or as simultaneous
triads? So what is your problem? Or do the three notes have short rythems?
Thank you.
Adel
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Objet : [goodfeel] Re: Embossing Your Transcription of "To a Lday Fair")
I perhaps didnt explain things properly. To A Lady Fair is a piece for a
single piano with right-hand and left-hand parts, each on its staff marked
as Treble Clef and Bass Clef for Right and Left hands, respectively. The
difficulty is that there are a lot of moving notes in the right hand; and
in most cases, the right hand will be playing or holding three notes pretty
much through the whole piece. So I figured that I need three voices in that
right-hand part. The left hand has only two voices. At one time years ago,
when I was into Orchestra-90 for the TRS-80 Model III, which was only five
notes polyphonic, I was able to score the complete piece for playback on
that synthesizer. So there is no doubt that my piece can be scored using a
total of five voices three in the right hand and two in the left hand.
But here is the rub! When I try to emboss the piece, I get an error
indicating that the right-hand part will be embossed as a separate line;
then when I press the Process button, it doesnt emboss anything, and I
believe I have some kind of violation error but I dont have it captured.
At one point when I was trying to emboss this piece, I once got an error
message saying something to the effect that Lime can merge only two voices,
though I didnt realize that there was a limit at that low a number.
When I get the piece embossed, I want it in a standard braille piano score
with measure numbers at the beginning of each right-hand part just the way
a braille piano score should appear. I wouldnt want to pull each part out
separately on its own page.
If you need to see the score as I have it, I could attach it to a message
for you. This one has me buffaloed!
I will appreciate any help you can provide.
.
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Subject: [goodfeel] Re: Embossing Your Transcription of "To a Lday Fair")
Salut David
If I understand, do you need to emboss each part separately? I do not
clearly understand what you mean. Basically, I think you should emboss each
staff separately in your arrangement of To a Lady Fair?
Thank you.
Adel
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Envoyé : 25 février 2020 17:25
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Objet : [goodfeel] A Piece That Won't Emboss
Hello, Bill and listers,
I finally got around to embossing a copy of my first Lime transcription
titled, To A Lady Fair by David Plumlee. It plays properly, and sighted
folk have said that it prints properly; but I cannot emboss it. One warning
I received indicated that Piano 1 will be embossed on a separate line. It
did emboss once last night, but the measure numbering embossed without any
of the right-hand or left-hand indications.
I renamed the two parts to RH and LH so that the voices became RH1, RH2,
RH3, LH1, and LH2. I got the same error that RH part would print on a
separate line, but when I clicked Process, the piece did not emboss.
The left hand has only two voices, but the right hand has three. What would
I have to do to fix the score so that it will play, print, and emboss
properly? Do I need to somehow redo the whole right-hand part so as to
weed it down to only two voices? That process would be rather involved,
but I could probably do that if that is required to make it emboss for me.
Having proper playback and printing, I could at least decide whether I would
want to rework that right-hand part; I might conclude that the task is
more involved than I want and thus decide to abandon the braille version, or
I might work on it bit by bit over time to get it done.
I can send the two version off-list to anyone who can help me figure out
what is wrong and how to fix it.
