[gha-peace] TR: My position ma position ! mi posición
- From: "Guy CREQUIE" <gcrequie1143@xxxxxxxxx>
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- Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2022 21:50:42 +0100
De : Guy CREQUIE [mailto:gcrequie1143@xxxxxxxxx] ;
Envoyé : vendredi 25 février 2022 21:50
À : 'María Cristina Azcona' <mcrisazcona@xxxxxxxxx>; 'Global Harmony
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Objet : RE: My position ma position ! mi posición
Importance : Haute
Bonsoir
Sous un style différent ce que j’ai dit = se rapproche de ce que dit Maria !
Nous sommes membres de réseaux de paix = donc logiquement la guerre n’est pas
une solution pour nous,( nous y sommes hostiles), mais une défaite de l’esprit
et de la paix = j’ai exprimé clairement que je suis hostile à la guerre même
présentée comme juste !
…. Or en disant cela, l’un d’entre vous me traite d’idiot, un autre laisse
entendre que je soutiens les nazis !
Je renouvèle, ce que j’ai dit en plusieurs messages et depuis longtemps :
- Je suis pour une conférence sur la sécurité en Europe avec la
participation de la Russie ,
- J’ai indiqué, que j’étais pour que mon pays signe le TIAN (traité
d’interdiction des armes nucléaires),
- J’ai dit que j’étais contre la militarisation de cette région,
- J’ai dit que les ukrainiens ont élu démocratiquement leur Président même
si ces positions ne nous plaisent pas mais qu’il devait respecter l’autonomie
du Donbass en respectant les russophones,
- J’ai dit que j’étais contre la guerre idéologique = un retour à la
politique des blocs comme au temps de la guerre froide,
- j’ai dit que j’étais contre l’adhésion de l’Ukraine à L’OTAN, mais que
l’invasion de l’Ukraine par la Russie était injustifiée…..Comme le sont les
références à l’usage éventuel de l’arme nucléaire par le Président
russe……………….
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En quoi = tout ceci est contraire à nos documents , aux valeurs que nous
promouvons ?
Tout ceci est ridicule, mais grave, quant aux relations entre nous. Certaines
accusations sont inadmissibles au sein d’un réseau comme le nôtre.
Cordialement.
Guy CREQUIE
Ecrivain français observateur social
Good evening
Under a style different what I have says approaches what Maria says!
We are members of networks of peace = thus logically the war is not a solution
for us, (are hostile there we), but a defeat of the spirit and peace = I
expressed clearly that I am hostile with the war even presented like Juste!
However by saying that, one among you treats me of idiot, another implies that
I support the Nazis….
I renew, which I said in several messages and for a long time:
I am for a conference on safety in Europe with the participation of Russia,
- I stated, that I was so that my country signs the TIAN (treated prohibition
of the nuclear weapons),
- I said that I was against the militarization of this area,
- I said that the Ukrainians elected their President democratically even if we
do not like these positions but that it was to respect the autonomy of Donbass
by respecting the Russian speakers,
- I said that I was against the ideological war = a return to the East-West
policy as at the time of the cold war,
- I said that I was against the adhesion of the Ukraine with NATO, but that the
invasion of the Ukraine by Russia was unjustified ..... Like are the references
for the use of the nuclear weapon………………………..
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In what = all this is contrary with our documents, with the values which we
promote?
All this is ridiculous but serious as for the relations between us. Certain
charges are inadmissible within a network like ours
Cordially.
Guy CREQUIE
Social observant French writer
Buenas noches
¡Bajo un diferente estilo lo que dije se acerca de lo que dice Maria!
¡Somos miembros de redes de paz = pues lógicamente la guerra no somos una
solución para nosotros, (es hostiles), pero una derrota del espíritu y la paz =
expresé claramente que soy hostil a la guerra misma presentada como exactamente!
Ahora bien al decir eso, uno de entre ustedes me trata de idiota, otro deja
entender que sostengo a los nazis….
Renuevo, lo que dije en varios mensajes y desde hace tiempo:
son para una conferencia sobre la seguridad en Europa con la participación de
Rusia,
- Indiqué, que era para que mi país firmara el TIAN (Tratado de prohibición de
las armas nucleares),
- Dije que estaba en contra de la militarización de esta región,
- Dije que los ucranianos eligieron democráticamente a su Presidente aunque
estas posiciones no nos agradan sino que debía respetar autonomía del Donbass
respetando a los rusohablantes,
- Dije que estaba en contra de la guerra ideológica = una vuelta a la política
de los bloques como al tiempo de la guerra fría,
- dije que estaba en contra de la adhesión de Ucrania a la OTAN, pero que la
invasión de Ucrania por Rusia era injustificada ..... como lo son las
referencias para el arma nuclear…………………..
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¿En qué = todo esto es contrario a nuestros documentos, a los valores que
promovemos?
Todo esto es ridículo pero grava en cuanto a las relaciones entre nosotros.
Algunas acusaciones son inadmisibles en una red como el nuestro.
Cordialmente.
Individuo CREQUIE
De : wwpo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:wwpo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
[mailto:wwpo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] De la part de María Cristina Azcona
Envoyé : vendredi 25 février 2022 19:51
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Objet : My position
Hi Gha members
I want to express my position regarding Ukrania
We cannot seriously defend any position in this case if ww call ourselves
peacemakers
Simply we are against any kind of violence . We cannot justify death produced
by attacks nor invasions from any country located in the North South West or
East indistinctly, with the quote "we are defending us from them' because
violence is not necessary
the media cannot justify the finalities
The citizens need peace
Let them find dialogue and agreement and please forget our personal preferences
for any government
Democracy must prevail over any kind of tirany
Democracy is not perfect but seriously nobody would accept any other system
because the opposite is simply dictatorship which is perilous
Maria Cristina Azcona
Gha Vicepresident founder
Democracy represents the existence of human rights
El vie., 25 de febrero de 2022 15:13, Diego Lucio Rapoport
<diego.rapoport@xxxxxxxxx <
mailto:diego.rapoport@xxxxxxxxx> > escribió:
Crequie
Baloney. Lie.
It is not only US responsable for what has unfolded, which has been supporting
the Bandera forces of Ukraine colaborators of the Nazis, which murdered
hundreds of thousands of Ukrainians and Jews after WWII, three European
chancellors signed the agreement between the Ukrainian-Banderists-Nazis who
were against the legitimate government of Ukraine and President Yanukovich, and
with them still present at Kyiv gave way and time for them to depose him and
take power, and thus the alliance between the neo-liberals and the
Bandera-Nazis who came to bomb the people of Donetsk and Lughansk which prior
to 1954 were part of Russia as member of the USSR.
It is not war/peace dualism appropiate when the warmongers use
peace-as-extortion-domination-non-military-means.
CONTEXTUALIZATION IS ALL TO AN ONTO-EPISTEMOLOGY, which goes beyond dualism.
Dualism is for subjugation by the stronger to apply to the Other.
Simply put US- European exceptionalism obliges the rest of the world to accept
subjugation.
Duality is forcefully collapsed to hegemonics. In science this is the movement
which underlies positivism!
Simply recall that the same day that Paris was liberated by the Allies, the
Algerians were massacred by the French army in Oran.
(I loved French culture, almost -for a week- born in Paris where my family
resided, not much of it left, for which France is responsible)
Diego Rapoport
El vie, 25 feb 2022 a las 12:17, crequie (<guy.crequie@xxxxxxxxxx
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mailto:guy.crequie@xxxxxxxxxx> >) escribió:
De : crequie [
mailto:guy.crequie@xxxxxxxxxx ;<
mailto:guy.crequie@xxxxxxxxxx> ]
Envoyé : vendredi 25 février 2022 14:46
À : ''Lana Yang' via Women's Global Harmony Association (WGHA)'
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Objet : Is our network GHA still a network of peace? If not, a network which
justifies the war? ¿Nuestra red GHA es aún una red de paz? ¿Si no, una red que
justifica la guerra?
Notre réseau GHA est-il encore un réseau de paix ? Sinon, un réseau qui
justifie la guerre ?
Chers amis,
Mon constat : est le sentiment antirusse et anti POUTINE qui va déferler en
Europe et dans les pays occidentaux.
Ce qui me désole est le silence et la passivité des membres de notre réseau.
Nous avons élaboré de beaux documents de paix, mais ceux-ci sont confrontés à
l’attitude de paix lors d’un grave conflit alors que la Russie comme certains
pays membres de l’OTAN disposent de l’arme nucléaire. Le Président POUTINE, a
même évoqué l’arme nucléaire pour les Etats qui chercheraient à entraver son
action .Tout ceci = est loin du GANDHICA !
Notre fondateur animateur du réseau justifie la guerre ce qui est contraire à
nos documents L’invasion de l’Ukraine est hélas justifiée par lui , même si je
renouvèle mes plus que réserves s’agissant de ce qui est du gouvernement
ukrainien, mais je refuse la soi-disant légitimité de l’invasion .
La responsabilité des Etats-Unis dans cette situation est réelle !
Néanmoins, les accords de Minsk ont été bafoués, il y a invasion de l’Ukraine.
Tout ceci est contraire au droit international et au GANDHICA.
Allons-nous, ne pas proposer : La désescalade, des négociations pour activer la
paix, le départ des troupes russe de l’Ukraine, une conférence sur la sécurité
européenne. Le refus par les Etats-Unis et l’Union Européenne de l’adhésion de
l’Ukraine à l’OTAN, le refus du retour de la militarisation de l’OTAN dans de
nouveaux pays européens.
SI nous = membres du réseau avons perdu tout esprit critique, si nous n’osons
pas nous exprimer, alors, effectivement, je me demande quel est mon rôle dans
ce réseau ?
Si vous pensez, que je doive le quitter, SVP, par franchise , précisez-moi
votre position. SVP, prenez vos responsabilités !
Pour ma part, ce qui compte est d’être en paix avec ma conscience. Je préfère
être minoritaire que complice ou lâche.
Le gouvernement ukrainien actuel sera chassé du pouvoir. Le Président russe
mettra sa place à sa place un gouvernement choisi par Vladimir POUTINE. Mais
les rancœurs demeureront. Rien ne sera réglé pour l’avenir ! Ce contexte, va
renforcer la présence de l’OTAN dans les pays avoisinants = soit l’inverse du
but recherché.
Copyright Guy CRÉQUIE
Écrivain français observateur social
Is our network GHA still a network of peace? If not, a network which justifies
the war?
Dear friends,
My report: is the feeling antirusse and anti PUTIN which will break in Europe
and in the Western countries.
What afflicts to me is the silence and the passivity of the members of our
network.
We prepared beautiful documents of peace, but those are confronted with the
attitude of peace at the time of a serious conflict whereas Russia as certain
member countries of NATO have the nuclear weapon. President PUTIN, even evoked
the nuclear weapon for the States which would seek to block its action.All this
= is far from the GANDHICA!
Our stimulating founder of the network justifies the war what is contrary with
our documents the invasion of the Ukraine is alas justified by him, even if I
renew my more than reserves as regards what is Ukrainian government, but I
refuse the so-called legitimacy of the invasion.
The responsibility for the United States in this situation is real!
Nevertheless, the agreements of Minsk were ridiculed, there is invasion of the
Ukraine. All this is contrary with the international law and the GANDHICA.
We go, not to propose: The de-escalation, of the negotiations to activate
peace, the Russian departure of the troops of the Ukraine, a conference on the
European security. The refusal by the United States and the European Union of
the adhesion of the Ukraine with NATO, the refusal of the return of the
militarization of NATO in new European countries.
IF we = members of the network lost any critical spirit, if we do not dare to
express us, then, indeed, I wonder which is my role in this network?
If you think, that I must leave it, PLEASE, by frankness, define to me your
position. PLEASE, face up to your responsibilities!
For my part, which account is to be in peace with my conscience. I prefer
minority being that accessory or coward.
The current Ukrainian government will be driven out power. The Russian
President will put his place at his place a government chosen by Vladimir
PUTIN. But rancours will remain. Nothing will be regulated for the future! This
context, will reinforce the presence of NATO in the neighbouring countries = is
the reverse of the sought-after goal.
Copyright Guy CRÉQUIE
Social observant French writer
¿Nuestra red GHA es aún una red de paz? ¿Si no, una red que justifica la guerra?
Queridos amigos,
Mi acta: es el sentimiento antirusse y anti PUTIN que va a romper en Europa y
en los países occidentales.
Lo que me aflige es el silencio y la pasividad de los miembros de nuestra red.
Elaboramos bonitos documentos de paz, pero se enfrentan éstos a la actitud de
paz en un grave conflicto mientras que Rusia como algunos países miembros de la
OTAN disponen del arma nuclear. El Presidente POUTINE, mencionó incluso el arma
nuclear para los Estados que pretenderían obstaculizar su acción.¡Todo esto =
dista mucho del GANDHICA!
Nuestro fundador animador de la red justifica la guerra lo que es contrario a
nuestros documentos la invasión de Ucrania desgraciadamente es justificada por
él, aunque renuevo más mis que reservas respecto lo que es del Gobierno
ucraniano, pero rechazo la supuesta legitimidad de la invasión.
¡La responsabilidad de los Estados Unidos en esta situación es real!
Sin embargo, los acuerdos de Minsk se ridiculizaron, hay invasión de Ucrania.
Todo esto es contrario al derecho internacional y al GANDHICA.
Van, a no proponer: La desescalada, de las negociaciones para activar la paz,
la salida de las tropas rusa de Ucrania, una conferencia sobre la seguridad
europea. La denegación por los Estados Unidos y la Unión Europea de la adhesión
de Ucrania a la OTAN, la denegación de la vuelta de la militarización de la
OTAN en nuevos países europeos.
¿SI = miembros de la red perdimos todo espíritu crítico, si no nos atrevemos a
no expresarnos, entonces, efectivamente, me pregunto cuál soy mi papel en esta
red?
Si piensa, que deba dejarlo, POR FAVOR, por franquicia, precisan su posición.
¡POR FAVOR, asumen sus responsabilidades!
Por mi parte, lo que cuenta es ser en paz con mi conciencia. Prefiero ser
minoritario que cómplice o flojo.
Se expulsará al Gobierno ucraniano actual del poder. El Presidente ruso pondrá
su lugar a su lugar un Gobierno elegido por Vladimir POUTINE. Pero los rencores
permanecerán. ¡No se regulará nada para el futuro! Este contexto, va a reforzar
la presencia de la OTAN en los países vecinos = sea el revés del objetivo que
se persigue.
Copyright Guy CRÉQUIE
Escritor francés observador social
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