[ggcsquicksig] Re : BBQ announcements
- From: Barbara Hansen <bearba2@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: "ggcsquicksig@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <ggcsquicksig@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2011 21:56:10 -0700 (PDT)
Dear Vance,
Did Shirley get you enough information for the BBQ announcements to begin?
Barbara Hansen
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From: Steve Vance <stv@xxxxxxxx>
To: ggcsquicksig@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Monday, June 6, 2011 11:34 AM
Subject: [ggcsquicksig] Re: Beginning Balance changed from last Reconcile
I think that all the times this has happened to me, there was a
reconciled transaction that got un-reconciled or deleted. That is, the
"R" in the reconcile column got erased or changed to a "c". By gremlins,
of course, I would never do that myself.
Or something else got reconciled (the "R" added) where it shouldn't have
been. Either of these would cause the problem you describe.
It is nice that Quicken lets you do this (change an "R" to a blank, if
you need to), but there should be some kind of history database that
Quicken doesn't now have, so that you could see which specific
reconciliation put that "R" there. And could tell you immediately if
there were any reconciled items (from the beginning of time) that were
missing or no longer reconciled.
In other words, I think you are describing a very real problem that the
Quicken program should be able to fix automatically. Maybe someone could
suggest this to them. hint, hint.
Right now, they have reconciliation reports that you could print out
every time, and then manually refer back to in order to find the error.
But, you can not reprint those if you forget to do it at the end of
reconciling, and besides, it is not easy to go back over the printed
reports, looking for something that is missing. It would be better to
eliminate the printed reports, and just have a better reconciliation
system. For "extra credit", you should be able to have something like
"highlight with a blue color all the items that I reconciled in November
2010", fun things like that.
"No, I'm not in charge here. But I'm full of ideas" ~ Doctor Who
stv
on 6/4/2011 7:00 PM Will Kaefer & Mary Hearn said the following:
> When reconciling, by default Q puts in the current date. It is very
> important to put in the "closing date" of your paper statement. Overlooking
> that can really mess things up. Also when you do the reconcilation, and you
> balance it out to 0 you must accept the results by clicking "finish". Will
> --- On Sat, 6/4/11, Babette <ggcsquicksig@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>
> From: Babette <ggcsquicksig@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: [ggcsquicksig] Beginning Balance changed from last Reconcile
> To: "SIGLIST" <ggcsquicksig@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Date: Saturday, June 4, 2011, 2:58 PM
>
>
> Chris GralappChris Gralapp (using Q 20100) sent me an off-list message about
> a problem that I've encountered along the way, also. You complete a
> reconciliation to a paper statement, the ending balance works fine with
> cleared transactions, but when you go to reconcile the next statement, the
> Opening Balance shown is not the same as the previous closing balance.
> Following are our exchanges. Have any of you had this happen? If so, how
> did you handle it?
>
> Babette
>
> Chris wrote:
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Chris Gralapp
> To: Babette
> Sent: Saturday, June 04, 2011 10:10 AM
> Subject: Beginning balance Q
>
>
> Hi Babette,
>
> This odd thing happens to me eoccasionally in Quicken (2010), when I
> reconcile :
>
>
> The previous month's numbers ran fine, and the account balanced to $0.00.
>The ending balance on my bank statement was $1000. This amount should
>automatically become the beginning balance for the next statement, yes?
>
> But this month, after I have accepted my income and expenses, and go to
>reconcile, Quicken tells me that my beginning balance is $2049, not the $1000
>that penciled out last month, and which is on my paper statement.
>
>
> How can this number change? Why would Quicken claim a different beginning
> balance than the Bank (B of A)? I wonder if it is my error (likely!) or
> Quicken's? Or the Bank's?
>
> Thanks,
> Chris
>
>
> I replied:
>
> Chris...which version of Q are you using now? 2011 or earlier?
>
> Are the dates correct on the start and end dates for the new statement?
>
> Is the figure that comes up as the starting balance the same of an earlier
> statement than the one before the current one you want to reconcile? (It's
> possible that the last reconciliation got wiped out or lost or something.
> Are all the "R"s showing on the transactions for the last reconcilication?)
>
> You can manualaly correct the starting balance when you begin the reconcile.
> Stephen Nelson, author of the Quicken for Dummies books(who has been writing
> Quicken books since DOS days, and despite my general distaste for Dummies
> books, is probably the best author around), says:
> "VERIFY THE OPENING BLANANCE: Quicken displays a figure in the Opening
> Balance text bos. If this figure isn't correct, replace it with the correct
> figure. To do so, move the cursor to the text box and type over the given
> figure).
>
> I've had this happen, too. And frankly, I've never quite figured out why it
> happens.
>
> However, sometimes I can fix it by unreconciling the last statement (this is
> a real drag...you have to get out your statement, and go to each transaction
> on it and manually click on the "R" column and take it back to a blank or "c"
> for clear.) Then do the reconcile over again, and then it works OK on the
> next statement.
>
> Or call the really excellent Inner Circirle Priority tech support number
> (877-682-4254begin_of_the_skype_highlighting 877-682-4254 end_of_the_skype_highlighting)
> and ask them about it. They are in U.S. and are high level tech support
> people. I', not sure whether you really have to register for Inner Circle
> (it's free) and they check, but it's so eacy to do so that it's worth doing.
> The User forums on Inner Circle are also much better than the "Quicken
> Community" at Intuit's general Support web site. I checked them before
> sending this reply, but there's nothing I can find about this problem.
>
> If you do call, let me know what they tell you. I'd like to have the
> information for my own data files.
>
> Also, can we share this with the Quicken SIG list? I think it would be
> interesting to all.
>
> Babette
>
> AND CHRIS THEN REPLIED:
>
> Hi Babette,
>
> yes, of course you may share this! I was expecting that might happen, so I
> gave hypothetical numbers. I have verified all of the items you suggested.
>
>
> -The dates are right
>
> -All my Rs are showing for the previous month's reconciliation, and that
>one had balanced at the time...!
>
> -I tried manually correcting the incorrect opening balance, and I got the
>same result--$1049 too much.
>
> -I am afraid to unreconcile--I know I would really goof something up!
>
>
> So, I just did a balance adjustment (I know, I know--it is a whopper, and
> very sloppy to do it this way, but I was out of time, and I am not math whiz).
>
> But it has happened before, that my closing and opening balances don't jibe,
> and I just don't get how that can happen--it's like some voodoo at the bank.
> Makes me somewhat distrustful. Oh, BTW, I am using the Quicken 2010 Home and
> Business edition.
>
> Thanks!
>
> Chris
>
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