Wasn't he a rampant evolutionist? Jack ----- Original Message ----- From: Steven Jones To: geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Saturday, November 03, 2007 1:22 AM Subject: [geocentrism] Re: spiritual beings philip madsen wrote: We're not human beings having a spiritual experience. We're spiritual beings having a human experience. Agreed. Very good quote by Chardin. I prefer this translation: "You are not a human being in search of a spiritual experience. You are a spiritual being immersed in a human experience." - Teilhard de Chardin Steven.