[geocentrism] Re: navigation to the moon
- From: "Dr. Neville Jones" <ntj005@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2005 15:16:38 +0000 (GMT)
Hi Philip,
You are forgetting that NASA themselves maintain their navigation by the stars.
There are direct quotes from Buzz Aldrin, for example, on
www.midclyth.supanet.com
under "Stars, what stars?" This alone means that the stars have to be fixed in
the system that NASA wants us to accept and believe in.
You are also confusing the navigation problem with the relative motions that we
observe from the World being far easier to mathematically describe within a
geocentric framework.
If you are in a spaceship heading (so you hope) to the Moon, then you need to
know where the Moon is going to be when you get out to that distance - this is
not the same as two ships close to each other on the ocean, each having the
desire to meet up with each other. You cannot maniputate your position in space
in anything like the way you can on the sea. To illustrate, how would your two
ships meet up with each other if they could not see each other? They would have
to take bearings on a fixed point (well, actually two fixed points) and each
calculate where and when they were going to meet. Also, this is not a once off,
but a constantly changing calculation, due to their drift on the sea.
Similarly, a spacecraft drifts in space and has to be regularly adjusted. The
distance of the Moon from the World is not the main issue. You have to know
where the Moon is going to be with respect to something that does not move. On
the way back, too, you have to know where the World will b
e with
respect to something that does not move - i.e., the stars in the heliocentric
myth.
Neville.
Philip <joyphil@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Neville said,
The reason that the astronauts would have to have referred to the stars is that
they would have to constantly take bearings on fixed objects. In the geocentric
case, the only thing fixed is the World, which would not facilitate their
travelling to the Moon. Such navigational aids are required in both scenarios,
because the Moon is a moving target in both (as the World is in a heliocentric
system).
Neville isn't it a matter of relative motions. NASA could, (someone said that
they do) nasa could use the geocentric model for calculations. In the eath moon
system, true relative motions are observable. The moon distance and thus its
orbit could be calculated by Radar or any radio signal bounced off the moon
surface.
Knowing these surely they could match a missiles speed to that of the moon,
thus avoiding the cataclysm you propose.
Isn't it the same as two ships within observation of each other in a flowing
sea, and on course navigating to come together without recourse to stars or any
other fixed object?
Philip.
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