[geocentrism] Re: incitement to racism
- From: "philip madsen" <pma15027@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2008 10:18:03 +1000
Blacks had a really good deal under White rule in South Africa. I think now
that most Blacks of that era would say the same.
Neville, I agree, and I would also add that the majority of black slaves were
not too happy when they got liberated in America by the North..
the "evolution fairytale that people latch on to in order to justify (in their
eyes) their stupid, pointless lives."
Yet when I look at some people, my faith weakens in that they look so much like
the MISSING LINK.
Phil
----- Original Message -----
From: Neville Jones
To: geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2008 2:07 AM
Subject: [geocentrism] Re: incitement to racism
John,
I think that the majority of people are brain dead and really couldn't give a
toss about anything other than themselves.
When I was an undergraduate at London University in the 70s, I used to think
for myself and stand up and be counted. For example, the Student Union had a
'debate' on abortion, which was nothing more than a few mouthy clowns shouting
about a woman's 'right to choose'. One guy stood up and spoke against
abortion. He was heckled and jeered, but I listened to what he was saying and
where he was coming from. When the vote came, there were just two voting
against abortion - the brave speaker and me.
Likewise, I used to speak out against the anti-apartheid lobby, because in my
opinion the Blacks had a really good deal under White rule in South Africa. I
think now that most Blacks of that era would say the same.
After leaving university and going to work every day for a living to support
a young family, my perspective narrowed and I became engrossed in Thatcher's
Britain. I.e., I was taking on a selfish view of the world.
This world is geared to obscuring truth and replacing the purpose of life
with some never-never unreality, such that we can all stop thinking for
ourselves and speaking up for what we believe in.
This forum is not like that. I thank people like yourself and Philip for
giving reasoned debate as you have. And, in fairness to Philip, I think that
the main point he was making was against the organic evolution fairytale that
people latch on to in order to justify (in their eyes) their stupid, pointless
lives.
Best wishes,
Neville.
www.realityreviewed.com
-----Original Message-----
From: johnroodt@xxxxxxxxx
Sent: Wed, 10 Sep 2008 21:27:39 +1000
To: geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [geocentrism] Re: incitement to racism
Phillip, it's amazing that you have absolutely no concern regarding the
crimes and injustice that are obviously driving this man mad. No concern.
Whatsoever. I wonder if you were faced with that situation every day whether
the word "savage" would be far from your own mind.
It is hateful to have things like slavery and caste systems where people
are relegated to positions of servant-hood regardless of their personal
character. But even the Scripture makes a distinction when roles are reversed
-- for example:
proverbs 19:10
It is not fitting for a fool to live in luxury— how much worse for a slave
to rule over princes!
proverbs 30:21-23
"Under three things the earth trembles, under four it cannot bear up: ...
a servant who becomes king ... and a maidservant who displaces her mistress.
To justify this situation with words like "when blacks were" is unwise. We
are not a defeated people. Only Mandela seemed to understand that.
73% of white people voted to end Separate Development in the early '90's
(Apartheid is the Afrikaans word that the liberal media found easier to
demonise). The promise then was that it would end our isolation from the world
and bring about peace and justice for ALL.
We gave up an economy and military that was the equivalent to the rest of
"black Africa" combined. No other nation in the history of the world has done
that.
Those who voted against (27%) warned that we would not have justice. That
we'd still effectively be at war, and that we would lose our
self-determination. Only this time, we'd no longer be a regional super-power
with nuclear weapons and with the strongest economy by far, and an army and
police to protect us. To make matters worse -- the rest of the world would not
care.
They were right. As an example, more than 1,500 white farmers murdered
since Mandela and his followers were "handed" power. No one gives a damn.
Certainly not you, Philip.
What was the difference with other European-settled countries in North and
South America, and Australia and New Zealand? Why did only South Africa opt for
Separate Development (Apartheid)? Well, we were the only ones who were
outnumbered by the "others". For everyone else, Democracy was so very, very,
very convenient. Can you think of a better legal way to steal someone's land
than to simply move in in greater numbers and then declare Democratic rule?
What is more, in the other countries, the "others" were truly indigenous.
Contrast that with South Africa. The largest and most powerful group were the
Zulu, and white people had already settled in what is now South Africa before
the Zulu crossed over from what is now known as Mozambique. In reality, the
vast majority of black people in South Africa are migrants and settlers from
central Africa.
Why don't you campaign against the existence of countries like Lesotho and
Swaziland? They're products of Apartheid. If the policy had been allowed to
continue, the hope was that the southern african region would comprise 8 or
more such countries. It wasn't about slavery, or depriving people from the
rights to citizenship.
It was selfish. But no more selfish than modern political systems. Why not
let anyone in the world enter countries like the USA, Australia, England etc.
and vote...and settle where they please. Why should any nation have a right to
"separate itself" for whatever reason. It's selective Apartheid.
This is a waste of time. Congratulations! You certainly destroyed our
nation -- from the British invasions over a hundred years ago that forced our
two small republics into the area later called South Africa, to the
anti-Aparteid campaign. You're good at it -- I'll give you that. But I know
that white people in areas like North America, Australia, New Zealand and even
England will face the exact same situation that white people in South Africa do
today. I have known that since the day I watched us hand over our future.
If you think that the situation in South Africa is just, Philip, then
great. I am happy for you. Because it is your future -- and at least you know
now that it won't be all that bad. But if it is -- tough, mate. Your record
isn't that great either.
John
On Tue, Sep 9, 2008 at 6:48 PM, philip madsen <pma15027@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
Give us a break Brian.. we do not believe in evolution as Catholics.
These black people are our brothers who need bringing to Christ, as many of
them have been. Crimes of atrocities are not exclusive to black people. Bush
and Clinton come to mind. Please post my response of the evil in your
corrspondents post below to your list.
This is a racist versus racist example of a world without Christ.
Look at his words as he reports.
"The black savage pulled a knife " well we have white savages too...
"White woman leaving a restaurant was attacked by a simian......"
A straight out slur that black is monkey...... with overtones of a
belief in evolution....
1) Whites have absolutely NO recourse to the law;
2) any resistance to protect or retake your stolen property or life is
illegal and
3) untouchable black criminals can do whatever they like, with the overt
blessing of police and "security" outfits who in the good old days were
supposed to protect people from criminals.
Sounds a bit like what it was like for Blacks before when whites
controlled the roost.
Whites are second class citizens in their own country, de facto and de
jure SLAVES, and are graciously allowed to exist purely for the benefit of
rapacious, self-entitled black parasites, who plunder through legal or illegal
means the wealth, lives and possessions of these powerless Whites...
Well amazing, we know this sounds familiar ... when blacks were second
class citizens, thats even if they were considered as citizens.
Only from the True Christian Catholic view can we look at this situation,
where it is imperative that charity ie the salvation of souls , (no color
there) is the prime directive. Dutch ruled Africa never included the blacks
as children of God needing saving for Him. And we may wonder if your
correspondent likewise does care for souls. or even thinks he has one.
period.
Philip.
As
----- Original Message -----
From: Governor
To: CENTRAL QUEENSLAND FREE STATE MEMBERS AND BENEFACTORS ; TRADITIONAL
CATHOLICS
Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2008 10:16 AM
Subject: FW:
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Subject: How long will we tolerate this injustice?
This is South Africa under black rule? As long as the white sheeple
have their rugby and cricket to keep them busy, they may make a few feeble
complaints about our parlous situation, but they will otherwise remain placid,
happy and content!
How much more degenerate can the white people become?
Fred
How long will we tolerate this injustice?
A few months ago, we reported on the black mugger who attacked a
White family enjoying a Saturday afternoon stroll on a public beach, and stole
an elderly woman's cellphone. Her son was able to catch the criminal, tackling
him and wrestling the phone from him. The black savage pulled a knife but was
disarmed and punched by the woman's brave son.
Incredibly, black police who were summoned to the scene refused to
arrest the mugger, and instead arrested the woman, as well as her son and
husband for "assaulting the black criminal". The hapless family was detained in
a police cell for the weekend, and only released on the Monday morning and all
charges withdrawn.
On 20 July 2008, a similar event happened in Pretoria. In a stunning
repeat of the first incident of a few months ago, a young White woman leaving a
restaurant was attacked by a simian, who snatched her cell phone. Stefan
Kloppers who rushed to her aid, was able to tackle the subhuman scumbag and
snatch the phone away from him. He chivalrously handed the shaken women back
her cellphone and got into his car to leave, at which point a gang of 5 xxxx
"security guards" who witnessed the whole thing, yet refused to intervene,
blocked him from leaving.
Instead, they summoned the (black) police, who immediately arrested
the brave young White guy for "assault". They refused to arrest or even look in
the direction of the xxxx criminal, and took Stefan off to police cells, where
he spent the next two days locked up.
Clearly this is becoming a racial pattern, and we can safely deduce
that
1) Whites have absolutely NO recourse to the law;
2) any resistance to protect or retake your stolen property or life
is illegal and
3) untouchable black criminals can do whatever they like, with the
overt blessing of police and "security" outfits who in the good old days were
supposed to protect people from criminals.
I don't know how much clearer this message can possibly be made -
Whites are second class citizens in their own country, de facto and de jure
SLAVES, and are graciously allowed to exist purely for the benefit of
rapacious, self-entitled black parasites, who plunder through legal or illegal
means the wealth, lives and possessions of these powerless Whites... From
News24:
'I won't help a victim again'
Pretoria - Stefan Kloppers rushed to help a woman, tackling a thief
who had stolen her cellphone. But now this hero is being charged with assault
with the intention of inflicting grievous bodily harm.
Kloppers, 34, of Cullinan was arrested within minutes of his brave
deed on July 20. He was held for two days in a police cell before he was
released on bail. "Never again will I help a victim of crime in SA," said
Kloppers after his second appearance in court.
Kloppers is being prosecuted even though police have still not taken
a statement from the "victim", the suspected thief. Police have also not
arrested the suspected thief for stealing the phone. Kloppers had that night
been having dinner with friends at a restaurant in Hatfield. They were on their
way to his car when they saw an informal parking guard harass the woman.
"I thought he wanted money and walked on. Suddenly the woman yelled
and said he had her cellphone. I chased after him and tackled him like I did at
school when I was playing rugby," said Kloppers. He took the phone from the
man's hand and gave it back to the woman. "He didn't argue," said Kloppers.
He got into his car and saw how bystanders came closer and kicked the
thief. As he left the parking area, he was stopped by five security guards who
told him to stay there as they had seen "exactly" what had happened.
Police were called and Kloppers was taken to the police station where
he thought he would make a statement about the incident. Instead he was
arrested. His legal representative objected to the State postponing the case
again for a statement from the alleged thief. The court heard that police had
not been able to find the suspected thief.
When the court was told that the so-called victim was also a
suspected thief, Magistrate Christopher Chokwe said, "When someone steals your
phone, you don't attack him. You call the police."
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