Hey Philip! What happens when you dig a dead straight tunnel like say the Channel Tunnel? Downhill part of the way and then uphill? It would be of course Jack, but you and I know they would not be so stupid as to do it that way. They will make it a level road....not straight in the vertical plane. plm Jack ----- Original Message ----- From: Jack Lewis To: geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2007 9:08 AM Subject: [geocentrism] Re: Ships Hull for Regner Hey Philip! What happens when you dig a dead straight tunnel like say the Channel Tunnel? Downhill part of the way and then uphill? Jack ----- Original Message ----- From: philip madsen To: geocentrism list Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2007 9:59 PM Subject: [geocentrism] Re: Ships Hull for Regner Steven sayeth, 3. If the powerful telescope is mercury leveled, and it has cross-hairs etched in the centre then why do we not see the horizon below the cross-hairs? The reality is, it's above! You got me.. I must check it out. Water is level to gravity but curves away from us. A fifty mile straight edge would soon prove that. If you built a road 50 miles long going East, and you ensured it was perfectly straight, not level, but STRAIGHT, then if you walked along it you would be walking up hill all the way, and the far end would be several feet above ground level. On the other hand if you built the road perfectly level to a level, it would NOT BE STRAIGHT but curved down away from you.. Looking to the horizon at sea. If I set a telescope with a very narrow zoom field of view looking out over the water, on a tripod levelled 5 ft above the water level. Then you would or should never see the water or the horizon in its view. A better way would be to look through a long thin tube in which there were no lenzes.. level the tube , observe.. you would see only sky. Now bring the tube into line with the horizon just to the edge of the water.till the junction of sky and water is seen through the tube. ... Voila I bet if you checked the angle of elevation of the pipe it would be dipping down. no longer level... ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.16.8/1154 - Release Date: 27/11/2007 11:40 AM