Thanks Cheryl, yours is the first post I have understood for days! Wendy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cheryl" <c.battles@xxxxxxxxxxx> To: <geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Sunday, March 20, 2005 1:47 PM Subject: [geocentrism] Re: Point number 2 > Wendy -- Dr. Jones, I believe, is making the point that the heliocentrists > had to attach TWO separate movements to the earth in order to explain away > the geostatic (nonspinning) and geocentric (non-orbiting) earth. I think > he'd also go further than this to say that the more significant motion was > that of the earth spinning. When the helios did this, they added two > motions to the earth to explain away what our eyes are telling us and what > the Bible also tells us is happening -- i.e. that the earth is not turning, > and that the earth is the center of the universe. > > Gary could explain this better than I am. > > Cheryl > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "w.mackey" <w.mackey@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > To: <geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Sunday, March 20, 2005 5:50 AM > Subject: [geocentrism] Re: Point number 2 > > > > Please forgive my ignorance but I haven't a clue what point number 2 > > means? > > > > Please would you explain what you are saying in very simple terms, maybe > > this forum is completely over my head............ > > Diagrams might help........... > > > > Wendy > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Dr. Neville Jones" <ntj005@xxxxxxxxxxx> > > To: <geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > Sent: Sunday, March 20, 2005 2:26 AM > > Subject: [geocentrism] Point number 2 > > > > > >> Dear All, > >> > >> We seem to be edging towards agreement on another key issue in our > > understanding, so I wish to put forward point number 2: > >> > >> 2. IN ORDER TO MAINTAIN THAT WHAT IS OBSERVED IS ONLY AN ILLUSION, THE > > HELIOCENTRIC MODEL MUST ASSIGN AT LEAST TWO DISTINCT MOTIONS TO THE WORLD. > > SINCE THESE MOTIONS ARE CALCULATED TO FIT OBSERVATIONAL FACTS, IT FOLLOWS > > THAT A GEOSTATIC COSMOS MUST BE EQUIVALENT IN APPEARANCE TO A HELIOCENTRIC > > ONE. > >> > >> Feel free to ask questions and/or disagree (this is not a straw poll on > > the Emperor's new suit). And, in the absence of any such disagreement, I > > will assume that the point is accepted. > >> > >> > >> 1. IN BIBLICAL COSMOLOGY, THE WORLD DOES NOT ROTATE. > >> > >> Website www.midclyth.supanet.com > >> > >> Neville. > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> Send instant messages to your online friends > >> http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> -- > >> No virus found in this incoming message. > >> Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > >> Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.7.3 - Release Date: 15/03/05 > >> > >> > > > > > > > > -- > > No virus found in this outgoing message. > > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > > Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.7.3 - Release Date: 15/03/05 > > > > > > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.7.3 - Release Date: 15/03/05 > > -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.7.3 - Release Date: 15/03/05