I Just got my new copies of GWW vol 1&2 today...Great reading and Hope those who are serious about this debate would get their hands on a copy as it covers alot of ground work that you will find most uesfull....aether , geo sats, MM 7 MG experiments saganc and a bunch more.......Order a copy today!.....:-) Also, does any one know what Philip Snow sent to Neil Adams?....I had been planing an attempt to try to recurite him but i was waiting to get some "profesional materials" together first...such as GWW and hopefully GU4.0...If we could recurit or spark intrest in this guy( he is a media savy advertiser)....just think of the presentaion potinetial we would have.....any way someone let me know what philip sent so i can follow up on this........... Allen Daves <allendaves@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: Yes ...here is who he is......... Part 3: how all this relates and is demonstrated on earth http://www.continuitystudios.net/clip08.html http://www.continuitystudios.net/clip07.html http://www.continuitystudios.net/clip00.html http://www.continuitystudios.net/clip12.html http://www.continuitystudios.net/guestvid.html Suplimental moon data..examples http://www.continuitystudios.net/clip03.html http://www.continuitystudios.net/clip10.html Suplimental mars data..examples http://www.continuitystudios.net/clip13.html http://www.continuitystudios.net/clip01.html http://www.continuitystudios.net/marsmov02.html Jack Lewis <jack.lewis@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: Dear All, I've forwarded this on because the writer (a geocentrist) mentions Neal Adams. Does this name have any significance for anyone? Jack ----- Original Message ----- From: Philip Snow To: Jack Lewis Sent: Saturday, October 13, 2007 10:49 AM Subject: Neal Adams! Dear JACK - Though you might be innarested in this ee I have just sent to Neal Adams - do the Geocentrists generally go for his ideas? - I love 'em! I'm pretty sure they can be applied successfully to Creationism, given we have such problems with the timing of the ending of the Flood , anyway! Unfortunately, we have only one scripture I know of that MIGHT describe the spreading of the oceans - that 'clefting' in Peleg's day, although the psalmist did talk of the 'ascending mountains & descending valleys', didn't he.... Any ideas on this controversial subject? Philip Dear Neal Adams, I am delighted with your concepts, which appear to tell earth's story correctly - but. Yes, a big but! [no, not me, I'm quite slim, & incidentally also an illustrator & writer*] Regarding problems with all that water, I noticed that one of your correspondents asked - where did it go afterwards? Well, me, I believe the Bible - hey hang on, don't delete me! -which not only gives us excellent science when we actually read it [unlike most of its critics], but also explains where all that H20 came from & where it went afterwards! Only the Bible first told us that we live on a 'round earth' made out of water, 'hanging on nothing', in 'stretched out heavens', where 'the sun circuits the heavens', & where incidentally, life only reproduces 'after its Kind' - all verified to some degree by actual observable, testable real science. And it was only the Bible that told us the earth was formed 'from water, & out of water' [Genesis 1 & 2 Peter 3 v 5], & as now known = GRANITE only forms in water - period! [None of that hot 'bit knocked off the sun' nonsense]. And also described a global Flood initiated by 3 things: massive underground 'springs of the great deep', opening of the 'windows of heaven' [comets?] & torrential rain. And that when the Flooding finished , the first two were closed, but the rain was only 'restrained' - then the waters 'decreased all over the earth' . All this strongly suggests that a lot of water went back both under the earth [as recently discovered] or filled the new - spreading?! - ocean basins! Yes, most of your inspired conjectures fit the Biblical picture, given a few billion yrs or so! But then any form of radiodecay is based on unknowable circumstances, & recent research shows how it can speed up one billion times, as with almost instantly preserved polonium radiohalos in rapidly cooling granites! One of our best known [evolutionary] geologists, Prof. Derek Ager, wrote his best seller - 'The New Catastrophism' about how rapidly, virtually all rocks form, & famously reduced the Sutton Stones from '5 million yrs' - down to a 'Tuesday afternoon'! I've seen that mere meter of rapidly laid & obviously rapidly hardened limestone mud myself, crammed with broken & tumbled sea bed life. Like 1980's Mt St Helen's 600' cliffs & rapidly carved canyons, 1963's Surtsey almost instantly maturing island, Gt Britain's rapid severance from the Continent, end Ice Age, the disappearance of much of the Welsh coast in just one day in the 6th c AD [real, historical Arthur's time], & the production of Coal, Oil, Diamonds, Opals etc in days in the lab - well, only a evolutionist needs TIME! DNA, qualitatively unchanged from the beginning in all the so-called 'Living Fossils' obviously = Creation! And that's just for starters! Keep up the good work - which is challenging theoretical science so reductionist & dumb it's unbelievable - but you know that, don't ya! It's time to go all the way & really throw off their Cartesian shackles, & 'the truth will set you free'! Forget 'Religion', read the Bible.... All the best Philip Philip Snow www.hebrideansketchbook.org.uk http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/philipsnowba 'Light & Flight - Hebridean Wildlife & Landscape Sketchbook' . www.brown-whittaker.co.uk 'The Design & Origin of Birds'. DayOne Books. Philip Snow www.hebrideansketchbook.org.uk http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/philipsnowba 'Light & Flight - Hebridean Wildlife & Landscape Sketchbook' . www.brown-whittaker.co.uk 'The Design & Origin of Birds'. DayOne Books. www.dayone.co.uk