[geocentrism] Re: Fw: PASSING IT ALONG.....HOW IT ALL ADDS UP
- From: Allen Daves <allendaves@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2007 11:51:24 -0700 (PDT)
MM & MG show flow or current in aether (ie same aether that causes "Grav"
slingshots, Aspned effects and others ) I have pointed out the difference in
the "force" that causes them is different then the "force" that causes gravity,
one is a current due to aether drag the other is a vibration and I have argued
that both are necessarily inferred from all the data & "anomalies" (both are
nessisary & demonstratable you can?t just have one or the
other)...Gav/attraction is a vibration, but orbits/ Planetary movements must
involve currents to some extent not just gravity itself...... The aether flow
(ie Aspned effect/ Gyroscopic effect) is where satellites get additional speed.
However, the lack of aether flow/drag is what was missing in MM?s earth assumed
orbit of the sun..... 135 words!.....MAN IM GOOD! :) LOL
Robert Bennett <robert.bennett@xxxxxxx> wrote: Allen,
I agree with you , but...
I would have said as much in a thousand words less :)
aether flow ?? What happened to your aether vibs ? (in a 1000 words or
less, pls)
Robert B
It baffles me to no end to that many people can't make the distinction
between what scripture states and what people imagined scripture states,
between reality and how they imagine reality. This is the same uphill fight we
face with AC/HC. what the experiment shows verse what they imagine it
showed......
Example: PD stated in one of his last post that the MM experiment proved
there was no eather. But how could it prove something did not exist that it
actually measured?.. The Sagnac experiment as well as the MG experiment as well
as the fact the MM did not fail to measure rotation, it only failed to measure
the expected flow in a AC/HC construct. This is that same old problem only in a
different area then theology. He can?t make the distinction between reality and
how he and others are imagining reality. Failure to measure what you expect
doesn?t prove anything except perhaps that what you expect was wrong....but
what they expected in MM was a aether flow due to the earth going around the
sun it and all the others measured aether flow.......So the only thing MM could
have proven if anything is that the earth ain?t going around the sun because it
clearly measured aetheral flow as did MG and experimentally verified via
saganc. And in fact MG did give the aether flow expected
the only difference is that it was measuring the flow of earth/ aether spin
where MM was attempting to measure aetheral flow for earth orbit of sun.......
Somehow MS has convinced PD and everyone that MM, MG & Sagnac disproves proves
the very thing they showed.. What they show is
1 aether flow
2. the eather flow of spin
3 There is no aether flow for earth orbiting anything!
So although what it actually proves is that the AC/HC construct is false
...by sheer stroke of baseless imagination all these now show that there is no
aether !?..................Even now days the MS sound bites are so bezzare due
to that so many other "anomalies" and contradictions that when you do imagine
the universe you must not attempt to do so rationally. Any attempts at invoking
imagination must not have any bearing or resemblance to anything found in
ordinary reality except the "reality" that the universe is so strange it cant
be what it appears to be. What is worse is folk actually think that is the
"Real true science", based on the most rigorous LO&E .. not like me and all
that "faith" baggage.........WHAT!?
imagination V reality
co2 to temp V tem to CO2
no aether V aether
earth orbit of sun V no earth orbit at all
Allen
Philip
----- Original Message -----
From: Allen Daves
To: geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2007 7:23 AM
Subject: [geocentrism] Re: Fw: PASSING IT ALONG.....HOW IT ALL ADDS UP
What is most interesting is the fact that Revelation doesn?t even mention
antichrist...but everyone wants to correlate the two as somehow equal or
related........how in the world does the Antichrist relate to the Beast in
Revelation...The answer they don?t!.... except in the vain imaginations of men
who don?t have a clue about what they put forward and yet pretend ever so
arrogantly to use scripture as the basis for something that doesn?t even exist.
If you are going to use scripture to make a case then at least have the
courtesy to show how and where in scripture the two relate textually and or
contextually...The point is you can?t because they are have nothing to do with
each other and certainly not 666.
PS Mohamad and Islam is according to scripture having the spirit of antichist
therefore anyone espousing Islam is a antichrist.....according to John not Allen
philip madsen <pma15027@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
An interesting (arn't they always) attempt on the number 666.. I have
found many whose number fitted one way or the other... Kissinger is one.. I
suppose they are all antichrists.. Philip.
HOW IT ALL ADDS UP Central to Christianity is the doctrine of
salvation through the atonement of Christ Jesus for our sins. Certainly the
Lamb's sacrifice does not relieve any one of us from our own responsibilities.
Nor does it take away from Paul's admonition for us to "work out our own
salvation with fear and trembling" (Philippians 2:12). What Christ Jesus did
was reconcile us to the Father that we might receive forgiveness (a restoration
to fellowship with Him and His own) and grace (His unmerited favor). By
resisting temptation all the way to Calvary, Christ Jesus was victorious over
the Tempter. Through the self-sacrificing life that was in him, our King
brought gifts for all who would believe on him. He paved the way for us back to
our God. To say that Jesus was just a mortal is far from the Truth. To say that
he was not the Son of God is a lie. To say that he did not die for our sins is
heretical:
"Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is
antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son. Whosoever denieth the Son, the
same hath not the Father; [but] he that acknowledgeth the Son hath the Father
also."
1 John 2:22-23
"Hereby know ye the Spirit of God: every spirit that confesseth that Jesus
Christ is come in the flesh is of God: And every spirit that confesseth not
that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit
of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already
is it in the world."
1 John 4:2-3
"He that believeth on the Son of God hath the witness in himself: he that
believeth not God hath made Him a liar; because he believeth not the record
that God gave of His Son."
1 John 5:10
"For many deceivers are entered into the world, who confess not that Jesus
Christ is come in the flesh. This is a deceiver and an antichrist."
2 John 7
It should be obvious to the discerning reader that Mohammed has tried to make
Christ Jesus' life of null effect for sinners. True, Mohammed, has been just
one of many who have tried to discredit the Savior. However, he is not just one
antichrist of many antichrists: Bible prophecy reveals his testimony as
testimony of the Antichrist.
In the thirteenth chapter of Revelation, it is written:
"Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the
beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore
and six."
Revelation 13:18
The beast referred to here is the confederacy of Islamic states which is to
take shape during these last days. The man is Mohammed --- the identification
coming from Gematria, the ancient Hebrew science which assigns numerical values
to words.
In Gematria, the value of a word is determined by adding the numerical
equivalents of the individual letters that form it. Here, then, are the steps
necessary for identifying Mohammed as the "name" and "number" of the beast:
The simplest phonetic transcription of the word 'Mohammed' is:
(1) M O H A M E D
In ancient Hebrew, the closest counterparts of those sounds are:
(2) Mem Waw Hey Aleph Mem Yod Dalet
The proper character representation for the word Mohammed in John's Vision
is:
(3)
Note: John thought, understood, and "saw" in Hebrew (written from right to
left). However, he transcribed his vision into Greek (written from left to
right). Hence the reason for the so-called "final Mem" (the representation of
Mem when it ends a word) being used in the beginning place here.
In Gematria, the numerical equivalents of the above characters are,
respectively:
(4) 600 6 5 1 40 10 4
(5) The sum of the above numbers is 666, or "Six hundred threescore and
six."
(Please read Section 8, entitled Answers to Possible Questions, for
additional comments concerning this transliteration and its numerical values as
well as interpretation.)
When you stop to think about it, everything fits. 1) That "the fourth beast
shall be the fourth kingdom upon earth, which shall be diverse from all
kingdoms, and shall devour the whole earth, and shall tread it down, and break
it in pieces" (Daniel 7:23): The nation of Islam, with all of its oil-rich
countries, will wield more power than any earthly kingdom heretofore known. 2)
That an end-time ruler shall "think to change times" (Daniel 7:25): The Moslem
era dates from the Hegira, the forced journey of Mohammed from Mecca to Medina
in 622 A.D. 3) That the final end-time ruler shall not regard "the desire of
women" (Daniel 11:37): Mohammedans view women as being little better than
chattel. And, 4) That men shall have "the name of the beast" (Revelation
13:17): Today, the word 'Mohammed' is the most popularly used name in the
world. People have incorporated it into their names more than any other single
word.
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