[geocentrism] Re: Fw: From the BLM: BIIIIGGGG Blizzard on tap for the weekend

  • From: Paul Deema <paul_deema@xxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Sun, 14 Dec 2008 17:15:53 +0000 (GMT)

Philip M

Oh! Dear me. Philip my son! It was you who first made the point to me about ice 
which when melted does not make the level of the water in which it is floating 
rise. This had not impinged upon my conscious but your point was instantly 
clear. However you are on VERY thin ice -- to coin a phrase -- when you link 
retreating glaciers with -- implied -- sea levels and this I have previously 
pointed out to you. I am of course referring to glaciers which end abruptly 
above sea level.

The phenomenon of unseasonably  cold -- or warm for that matter -- weather, is 
differentiation of data. Glaciers on the other hand, are integration of data. 
It is the integration which is at the top of my mind. An example which might be 
more illustrative for you is the use of the hot wire power meter for measuring 
supplied power regardless of whether the source is dc, ac, constant or pulsed. 
Another similar device uses the temperature difference between the temperature 
of a cooling fluid at the input of the load being cooled and the temperature at 
the output. The parameter not defined here however is the time-constant.

Paul D




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From: philip madsen <pma15027@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Saturday, 13 December, 2008 9:22:35 PM
Subject: [geocentrism] Re: Fw: From the BLM: BIIIIGGGG Blizzard on tap for the 
weekend

 
Call me when the glaciers start advancing. Paul D
 
Thats a biased response.. Its like me saying to Global warming, call me when 
the sea begins to rise and the beach is no more. More bad science by the way..  
If all the ice melted, the sea will not rise.. Try it with a full glass of 
water and some floating ice. 
 
However there are reports of the glaciers indeed having stopped receding a year 
ago, as they were during the warm solar cycle. Ill find them for you if i can. 
 
Phil. 
----- Original Message ----- 
From: Paul Deema 
To: geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
Sent: Sunday, December 14, 2008 12:02 AM
Subject: [geocentrism] Re: Fw: From the BLM: BIIIIGGGG Blizzard on tap for the 
weekend

Philip M
Call me when the glaciers start advancing. 
Paul D




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From: philip madsen <pma15027@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: geocentrism list <geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, 12 December, 2008 11:31:39 PM
Subject: [geocentrism] Fw: From the BLM: BIIIIGGGG Blizzard on tap for the 
weekend


 
Paul please note.  I wondered why SBS News showed this almost mini ice age 
beginning first with immediate follow up of the Un clinate global warming 
meeting showing all the old hot weather shots with power stations issueing 
stem(people are expected to think its smoke)  and of course Al gore still 
trying to sell his carbon credits..  
 
Not forgetting our own summer freeze last month..  How cold does it have to get 
before they stop with the lies. I can't find one person on the street in the 
pubs or anywhere, that believes them any more..  Its climate change right 
enough...  but not smoke. 
 
Phil
 
----- Original Message ----- 
From: Lockridge

 
 
Here is a message that was sent to the Universitythis morning to broadcast 
widely.  Check out the slides.  This is supposed to be a very dangerous storm.
 
 
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Good afternoon everyone.
 
Everything looks just like it did yesterday. The timing appears to be about the 
same with the development and progression of this upcoming potentially 
life-threatening event, so I will give more of an overview of how it looks like 
things are going to shake out.  I will also attach several JPGs to this email 
that will depict what's coming down the pike and how much snow to expect.
 
If you can avoid going outdoors (especially from mid day Saturday-most of 
Sunday in Montana and from Saturday afternoon-Sunday in ND/SD) that would be 
great. This will be a bad one.
 
Friday:
This will be a nice day to get things ready. SE MT will probably see temps in 
the lower 50s. Temps elsewhere will be in the 40s. The Arctic will begin oozing 
into MT near Cut Bank late into the evening.
 
Late Friday Night:
At midnight, take a picture of your thermometer. It will be the warmest 
temperature that you will see for several days. The flood of Arctic Air will 
begin to rush into North Central Montana and northern ND. Marias Pass will be 
the first pass to be significantly impacted (probably just before daybreak). A 
rain/snow mix will begin across Western MT but will change over to all snow by 
daybreak (and begin accumulating).
 
Saturday Morning:
The Arctic front will quickly move south, passing Great Falls , Glasgow , and 
Helena by mid morning.  It looks like Dickinson ND , Billings , Bozeman , and 
the Missoula will see the Arctic arrive around lunchtime. High winds, heavy 
snowfall, and dramatically falling temperatures will accompany the front.
Expect localized blizzard conditions especially going over the remainder of the 
mountains passes along the divide (as well as Bozeman Pass ) for the remainder 
of the day. There is a good possibility that the bulk of the snow will not 
arrive in ND/SD until early afternoon, so the Arctic air may arrive first.
**The Interstate 90 corridor will be majorly impacted beginning around lunch 
time.**
 
Saturday Afternoon:
From a safety standpoint, this will be the worst period.The heaviest snow will 
move into the eastern half of MT and the ND. The Dillon area in SW MT will also 
begin to be majorly impacted. (Yesterday, it looked like Dillon might escape 
the worst of this system. That is no longer the case.) There will be 
significant travel difficulties arising from whiteout conditions in most areas, 
especially the eastern half of MT and the mountain passes.
 
Saturday Night:
By evening, the main impact will begin to become frigid temperatures and wind 
chills. Temperatures are expected to fall into the -5 to 5 degree range across 
Western MT (the Missoula area), -10 to 0 range near Kalispell,
-15 to -25 range across areas east of the divide (not including ND).
Temperatures across ND/SD will be somewhat buffered by significant falling 
snow. Gusty winds to 30-40 mph in all areas should translate to wind chills in 
the -30 to -50 degree range.
 
Sunday:
High temperatures will probably be in the -5 to -10 range for most locations. 
The windy conditions (and dangerous wind chills) will continue through the day, 
except over Western MT where the winds could start decreasing in the afternoon. 
Winds should begin to diminish over the rest of the area Sunday evening. At 
this point we all really, really want the cloud cover not to break up. Bad 
things will happen to the temperatures Sunday night if the skies clear and the 
winds drop off, especially with snow on the ground.
 
Sunday Night:
Either Sunday night or Monday night will be the coldest nights, depending on 
how much cloud cover is left. If skies clear out and winds drop off then 
overnight low temps in the -30 to -45 degree range can be expected in areas 
east of the Continental Divide and in Butte (especially over NE MT and N ND). 
If we can somehow hang onto some cloud cover, then overnight lows may be 
buffered somewhat (Maybe only -20 to -30 degrees). West of the Continental 
Divide temps between -15 and -25 will be possible if skies clear out and winds 
diminish. If the cloud cover hangs on, lows will probably be in the -10 to -15 
range.
 
Monday:
Skies should clear. Temps will remain below 0 in all areas for the expected 
highs (minus double digits across NE MT and portions of ND). It shouldn't feel 
quite as cold as it really is (as long as you are in the sun.) It will feel 
even warmer indoors. Ha ha.
 
Monday Night:
With the clearing skies, lack of wind and good snow cover, this could be the 
overall coldest night. Sunday night's worst case scenario values (for both the 
areas east and west of the divide) will probably be observed.
 
Tuesday:
Temperatures will begin to slowly moderate in all areas. A cold, dry northerly 
flow will probably create some low level cloud cover, which should prevent 
temperatures from falling too far off Tuesday night.
 
This will be my last update until Tuesday. (I will be on leave tomorrow and am 
normally off on Mondays.)
 
Good luck and remember that there is a sale going on at the store on Milk, Eggs 
and Bread. (Everybody seems to make a run on these things prior to events such 
as this.)
 
The images are attached below.
 
Thanks,
 
Bryan Henry
Meteorologist
Northern Rockies Coordination Center
Missoula , MT
 
-----Original Message-----
From: Melinda_Mason@xxxxxxx [mailto:Melinda_Mason@xxxxxxx]
Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2008 4:17 PM This just in from our new BLM 
metorologist.
 
 
 
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