Neville said, ******** I'm not talking about the precession of the equinoxes, but the alleged change in axis orientation during the World's supposed 12-month orbit of the Sun. ******** I may be dimb here, but does not the axis of the earth remain constant as it orbits the sun? This means, to my graphic mind, that the gographical pole will always point to the same direction. and if a stationary star/stars was out there, it would appear to make a circular motion. Isn't that what happens? Philip.