[geocentrism] Re: Evil - DEADLY Vaccinations for Canadian Schoolgirls
- From: "w.mackey" <w.mackey@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Fri, 9 Feb 2007 21:51:48 -0000
Bravo Philip
I have a real aversion to organ transplant.
If every hair is counted by our Father, how can it be right to go exchanging
DNA with others?
We are fearfully and wonderfully made, and we are unique!
There seem to be ungodly practises involved in the so called 'harvesting' of
organs, and ungodly guilt and pressure visited upon relatives at the time of a
death. It is not of my Father.
In my opinion, the only exception would be between spouses, who are one flesh
anyway, and something like a kidney could be transplanted without death.
Also a similar transplant to one of your own children.
I have a friend who received an organ transplant..............he is literally
not the same person, something inside him has changed and he has suffered from
depression since the transplant, even though his health has naturally improved.
I have been in prayer meetings where those present have prayed for 'an organ'
for someone sick. How can it be right to pray for that?
You are in reality praying for someone to die.
I personally would never receive an organ transplant, nor blood transfusion.
For a believer, what is so very bad about dying!
Wendy
----- Original Message -----
From: philip madsen
To: geocentrism list
Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2007 9:10 AM
Subject: [geocentrism] Re: Evil - DEADLY Vaccinations for Canadian Schoolgirls
Bernie, I said the principle WAS sound. I did not say I approved of
vaccinations as they are today, and particularly do I oppose compulsion.. One
un-vaccinated cannot give the desease to the vaccinateds, so its all about
compulsion not protection..
and anyway, lets not forget the mark of the beast.. It could come by forced
injection.. but I doubt this given the Bible indicates we have a choice, but
this choice could apply to whether we use it , for example to buy food....in
which case we are Dead souls.
There is also a good case against blood transfusions, yet look how people are
ostracised for refusing it to their children.
Likewise organ transplants.. A good case against..... see story appended.
Philip.
appendix
FEATURE STORY OF THE CURRENT ISSUE.
CATHOLIC July, 1998 page 9.
Organ Transplants and Morality
This article was put together by Father Cornelis Byman of St Therese's Church
Chico.
Calf USA and appeared in his newsletter for June 1998
Fr. Byman's newsletters always contain some thought provoking work and what
follows is no exception Many are concerned about the question of organ donation
and transplants. and there are certainly some deep moral issues involved many
touched upon here. We are reminded of a bumper sticker often seen in Australia
which reads: 'Don't take your organs to Heaven. Heaven knows we need them here!
Provision is also made to have a notice of intention to donate organs included
with a driver's licence.
Whatever are our thoughts on this practice. We would he well advised to
discuss the matter with a competent priest before any serious decisions are
made.
In many hospitals a new practice has become commonplace: the removal of
organs from people who are believed to be dead, to trans-plant them into living
bodies of others, to replace an organ which is in bad condition. This can only
be done if the organ, taken from the donor; is itself still living.
This raises a major question> How can an organ, taken away from a corpse
still be able to function in another body, even if the donor died just before
the operation? It is of the greatest importance to know this. Therefore, the
advocates of this practice have invented a new expression to declare that one
is dead, and so to permit the surgeon to proceed with the proposed surgical
procedures. This new expression is brain death.
Death begins generally with the ceasing of the brain functions, even before
the heart has ceased completely to beat and the functions die slowly one after
the other. When one is brain-dead one seems to be dead but is not yet dead
entirely. To cut then the body open to take the needed organs(s) away, even if
the victim had to die, is murder, and this is deliberately overlooked by the
surgeon who needs the organs.
This becomes evident by what happened to Mr. John Kerkhoffs in Holland, who
had been operated on for a brain tumor and apparently died. He was declared to
be brain-dead. Family and physicians were standing around the bed and
discussing what to do and were even about to make him a donor of his useful
organs. Rut then he came out of his coma and was alive again, very much
'brain-alive'. Since he left the hospital , he has not stopped waning people
against the doctors who would take the organs, and the criminality which is
hidden in this practice. When asked whether he would become a donor he answers
with the words: "I prefer to die in peace"
When I was in Austria with a group of other priests, near to the border of
Czechoslovakia, one of our number, who had been a pastor in that country, told
us the following sad story: A woman died in his parish - it seemed, and was
being buried when, after the coffin had been put down into the tomb, a soft
knocking was heard, and after a moment of listening they should have pulled the
coffin again to the surface. But then the husband protested with the words:
"Dead is dead", and thereupon they filled the tomb with dirt Many years later
the tomb was emptied again to receive another body, and opening the coffin they
fonnd the bones of the woman in disorder She had been buried alive. How many
other people have been killed by surgeons taking away some organs. Even were it
only one, this is a sufficient reason to say "~No!" to this barbarous practice,
instead of permitting surgeons to put definitively an end to the life of their
victims.
Some countries like Japan, Sweden, Israel and Poland do not accept brain
death as being really dead, This is logical. The brain -cells comprise only 3%
of all the body cells. Even when death enters the brain first, there still
remains all the other 97% of all the body cells which can still be alive.
"Can a person be considered as dead," asked the neurophysiologist Dr Linke
"while 97% ofthe body is still alive?" In the procedure of taking away the
organs. the other 97% are killed by flushing the blood cells with household
salt, immediately before the slaughter begins. "To remove all organs," said an
operating nurse, "the surgeon makes a cut over the body from the throat to the
pubis."
The problem of brain death concerns mostly victims of accidents, those with
wholesale brain damage or of Poisoning. In Austria the law permits, in cases of
death by accident, to take away the organs without permission or information,
even from foreigners who are often unaware of this barbaric law. This looks
like a legalised form of robbery. After having taken away some vital organs the
unhappy donor is of course, definitivelv dead.
For nurses, assistance at this horrible work is very burdensome.A poll made
in Germany, showed that 6004 of the nurses who must assist at this kind of
operation, are averse to the practice. Relatives who have consented to the
removal of the organs, are often harassed by doubt and a feeling of guilt, and
are sometimes affected by physiological illnesses.
The recipient of these organs is almost always a sick person. whose life is
already in danger. But even after the replacement of the diseased organ by the
healthy one the person will never be the same as before. The new organ can be
rejected by the body and can need to be removed and another organ obtained and
inserted in a second ' operation The aftercare for the patient becomes very
often a new burden for the patient, as well as for the family for the remainder
of life.
The consciousness of having a heart that is no longer the patient's own is
humiliating. "who was the person to whom it once belonged; was it perhaps a
criminal or a person of the other sex?" The physician does not like to talk
about this part of the operation. And it is not very agreeable to think about.
Listen to this shocking complaint of a lady who lives, or lived, in thc south
of Germany: "Since two years I must go every week to Berlin (300-400 miles)."
Her body did not accept the strange heart received by transplantation. She must
carry always a mouth mask day and night. Her children may not kiss her She
should not touch the earth in her garden. She has her own toilet, her own wash
table, her own bedroom- For her, life is, or was, almost unbearable.
Hella Frien Schulze is another lady from Germany and the wife of a patient
who died 18 months after having had a heart transplant. She said: "I can say
that I would never more make a decision concerning transplants or support it.
We both have almost gone mad because of it-
This should be the opinion of all those who are of sound mind, and most
responsible of all should be the physicians and surgeons. Many of them see in
the transplant of organs nothing else but a new kind of euthanasia. And
euthanasia is murder!
True death follows only after the blood circulation has come to a standstill.
There is only one thing that can be permitted; this is the removing of an organ
during one's lifetime, which can be missed without becoming a cause of death.
Examples are one kidney or one eye, for the sake of someone else who is in need
of it. Such can only be praised as a great sacrifice of love for one's neighbour
(Most thoughts of this article have been taken from a brochure written in
German, and edited by the Institute "Fur Ehe undFamilie"
----- Original Message -----
From: bernie brauer
To: geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2007 3:27 AM
Subject: [geocentrism] Re: Evil - DEADLY Vaccinations for Canadian
Schoolgirls
Philip,
Fair enough. You get your daughter innoculated and I won't.
Ah..... Do you mind working 40 hours, earning $400 and then
using that money, your very own money, to pay for it? : ~ )
Bernie
philip madsen <pma15027@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Vaccinations
I'm sure she is wrong.. Whilst modern methods of production may and do
produce harmfull vaccinations, the principle behind natural immunity, and
artificially handed on.. Well proven. People who got harmless cowpox, never
got smallpox..
end story..
The problem is does our interference with natural selection, where the
weak die, produce a long line of weaklings susceptable to all sorts of new
deseases..
when I was a kid, the philosophy was to let the baby eat dirt.. He built
up immunity..
Philip.
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