[geocentrism] Ancient science?

  • From: "philip madsen" <pma15027@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2007 09:52:53 +1000

I said  :  The aforementioned authors may have had a thousand times the 
scientific knowledge that abounds today.

I wanted to add to this..   I truely believe that man after eating of the fruit 
of the tree of knowledge, did know all things..  almost all that God Himself 
knew..  within his human limits. 
22 And he said: Behold Adam is become as one of us, knowing good and evil: now, 
therefore, lest perhaps he put forth his hand, and take also of the tree of 
life, and eat, and live for ever. 23 And the Lord God sent him out of the 
paradise of pleasure, to till the earth from which he was taken. 24 And he cast 
out Adam; and placed before the paradise of pleasure Cherubims, and a flaming 
sword, turning every way, to keep the way of the tree of life. Notice "one of 
us"  Three persons..  one "And the Lord God " 

Have we any records in the past ?  I heard yesterday of the finding of 
artifacts proving that the ancients had electrical dynamos and even 
electroplated articles were found..  

I'm checking it out..  

Phil
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  From: philip madsen 
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  Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2007 8:58 AM
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  Paul says: 
  You may not agree with their conclusions, but they fit observation and 
reason, and they explain. Because of this, they have utility. 
  [ Utility does not prove reality. NASA utilises, thats utility, the 
geocentric position for many calculations. As regards observation , all admit 
such is illusory.. Thats why they love Einsteins relativity mirrors..  but we 
have the egg or chicken primacy here. What is observed is made to fit the 
reasons assumed.  shouldn't it be the reasoning should be made to fit the 
observation..  surely you do not claim that anyone anywhere can observe, or has 
observed the earth moving, or twisting ? Not even Einstein admits or claims 
that. ]

  You must also be aware that Neville is a died-in-the-wool geocentrist. He is 
aware of what I'm saying, but prefers to believe a distinctly minority 
interpretation of an ancient book written by -- scientifically -- ignorant 
authors in preference to -- scientifically -- less ignorant, recent and 
contemporary investigators.

  [  scientifically ignorant authors?  You know the authors then? Even if I 
left out the truth that they were writing the words as ordered from God, and 
accepted that these were the words of ordinary men, how can you or I know the 
level of their science? How can you claim that they were more ignorant than 
todays scientists? If I write a book on cooking fish, can you then discern my 
scientific qualifications? 

  Of course not..  but in writing their book on faith and morals, they in 
passing mention truthful observations concerning the cosmos, according to their 
science.  Without even knowing their scientific reasoning behind their 
acceptance of these facts, and simply because you arrogantly presume that 
todays men are superior to them in scientific knowledge, and because todays 
men's view contradicts those of those unknown men of the past, you presume them 
to be ignorant. 

  A purely private unproven and unprovable opinion. Just as are the tenets of 
heliocentrism un proven and unprovable. At least today. The aforementioned 
authors may have had a thousand times the scientific knowledge that abounds 
today.

  Based on their literary skills in promoting and teaching faith and morals 
alone, I could imagine your surprised efforts in dialogue should it ever be 
possible that you come face to face with any one of these human authors. 

  Even more would your efforts be amazing to behold if you were confronted by 
the real inspiration behind those writings Himself, who far from being 
ignorant, knows ALL..  ] 

  Philip.  


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