[GeoStL] Was : A proper salute NOW: Cruisin to new heights!
- From: "Mike Griffin" <griff@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <geocaching@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2003 21:06:49 -0600
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The whole message that started this is on www.truthorfiction.com. It's
fiction anyhow. Go read the facts and lets move along.. Nothing to see here
folks..
I did find cruisin today!! Well, actually, Bridget sort of virtually found
it... But "I" signed the log! (and walked back up that big hill)
Mike Griffin
"The Brawny Bear"
"When Satan is knocking at your door, simply say, "Jesus, could you get
that for me?"
----- Original Message -----
From: "Eric & Dayna East" <lichanura@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <geocaching@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, February 12, 2003 9:25 PM
Subject: [GeoStL] Re: A proper salute
> -
> we do change our salute depending on the commander in chief & I for one
am very
> glad I served under Ronnie & George Sr. There's no way I could've
respected or
> given a real salute to a man who was too chicken to serve his country.
>
> Barbara Hunt wrote:
>
> > -
> > Both.
> >
> > I'm actually very surprised that military types are not only approving
of
> > this message, but jumping on me for disapproving. It implies...actually,
it
> > says outright...that servicemen change their salute depending on how
they
> > feel about the individual Commander in Chief.
> >
> > >From: "Lyn Cook" <lynslyne@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > >Reply-To: geocaching@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > >To: <geocaching@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > >Subject: [GeoStL] Re: A proper salute
> > >Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2003 14:46:09 -0600
> > >
> > >-
> > >was it "subject" inappropriatness or "doing" inappropriatness?
> > >
> > >
> > >--- Original Message -----
> > >From: "Barramus" <barramus@xxxxxxx>
> > >To: <geocaching@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > >Sent: Wednesday, February 12, 2003 2:41 PM
> > >Subject: [GeoStL] Re: A proper salute
> > >
> > >
> > > > -
> > > > That sure is how I remember it.
> > > >
> > > > Barramus
> > > > N 38° 25.081'
> > > > W 90° 42.823'
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "Barbara Hunt" <barbarastl@xxxxxxx>
> > > > To: <geocaching@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > Sent: Wednesday, February 12, 2003 2:04 PM
> > > > Subject: [GeoStL] Re: A proper salute
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > -
> > > > > <confused>
> > > > >
> > > > > Didn't we just get over a flap with a kid named Chris...everyone
was
> > > > yelling
> > > > > at him for innappropriatness....right?
> > > > >
> > > > > Never mind.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > >From: "Lyn Cook" <lynslyne@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > > >Reply-To: geocaching@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > > >To: <geocaching@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > > >Subject: [GeoStL] Re: A proper salute
> > > > > >Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2003 13:53:59 -0600
> > > > > >
> > > > > >-
> > > > > >What's the big deal about whether its appropriate or not!
> > > > > >
> > > > > >----- Original Message -----
> > > > > >From: "Barbara Hunt" <barbarastl@xxxxxxx>
> > > > > >To: <geocaching@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > > >Sent: Wednesday, February 12, 2003 10:16 AM
> > > > > >Subject: [GeoStL] Re: A proper salute
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > -
> > > > > > > ...or it could just be that they were told to salute that way.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > In any case, unless the President is Geocaching, I don't find
this
> > > > > > > appropriate to post on this list.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >From: "Dan Eubanks" <deubanks@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > > > > >Reply-To: geocaching@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > > > > >To: <geocaching@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > > > > >Subject: [GeoStL] A proper salute
> > > > > > > >Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2003 10:05:18 -0600
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >-
> > > > > > > >Whether you do or do not like George W. Bush as our
President,
> > >this
> > > > > > > >message reveals some interesting plateau's he has reached.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >First, an observation. Have you noticed a difference in the
> > >salute
> > > > > >given
> > > > > > > >by our military men and women as President Bush walks by?
Most
> > >folks
> > > > > > > >would not notice anything, but those of us who have served in
the
> > > > > > > >military see it right away.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >Next time pay close attention when President Bush leaves his
> > > > helicopter
> > > > > > > >or Air Force One, the honor guards salute and face him as he
> > > > > >disembarks,
> > > > > > > >then turn their faces towards him as he passes by. They
continue
> > >to
> > > > > > > >salute his back as he walks away. This kind of salute has not
> > >been
> > > > seen
> > > > > > > >in the previous eight years, though it is customary courtesy
to
> > >the
> > > > > > > >Commander-in-Chief. You see, soldiers aren't required to turn
and
> > > > face
> > > > > > > >the President as they salute. They are not required to salute
his
> > > > back.
> > > > > > > >They are only required to salute. They can remain
face-forward
> > >the
> > > > > > > >entire time. And that is what they did during the previous
> > > > > > > >administration. Our soldiers were forced to obey his orders,
but
> > >they
> > > > > > > >were not forced to respect him. From their salutes, we can
> > >surmise
> > > > that
> > > > > > > >they did not.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >Why is such respect afforded to President Bush? He doesn't
even
> > >know
> > > > > >how
> > > > > > > >to bite his lower lip and not get teary-eyed whenever he
speaks!
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >The following incident from Major General Van Antwerp may
give us
> > >an
> > > > > > > >insight. Gen. Antwerp is president of the Officers' Christian
> > > > > > > >Fellowship. He lost nearly all his staff when the Pentagon
was
> > > > attacked
> > > > > > > >September 11. His executive officer LTC Brian Birdwell was
badly
> > > > burned
> > > > > > > >and in the hospital when President Bush visited him. Our
> > >President
> > > > > >spent
> > > > > > > >time and prayed with Brian. As he was getting ready to leave,
he
> > >went
> > > > > >to
> > > > > > > >the foot of Brian's bed and saluted. He held his salute until
> > >Brian
> > > > was
> > > > > > > >able to raise his burned and bandaged arm, ever so slowly, in
> > >return.
> > > > > > > >The Commander-in-Chief almost never initiates a salute,
except in
> > >the
> > > > > > > >case of a Congressional Medal of Honor winner. The injured
> > >soldier
> > > > did
> > > > > > > >not have to return the salute. But he did, out of respect to
his
> > > > > > > >President ... a Soldiers' President.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >Congressman JC Watts (R. Oklahoma) said, "Character is doing
the
> > > > right
> > > > > > > >thing when nobody is looking," (My favorite quote of all
time).
> > >The
> > > > > > > >nation and world learned some of what our last President did
when
> > > > > >nobody
> > > > > > > >was looking; that President has been disbarred, the worst
> > >disgrace
> > > > > > > >(other than imprisonment) to a lawyer. CNN will have a
difficult
> > >time
> > > > > > > >shining his or his wife's tarnished images.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >In this time of war and danger, I am so grateful to have a
> > >President
> > > > > > > >whom the soldiers salute -- fully. On Special Report with
Brit
> > >Hume,
> > > > at
> > > > > > > >the close of the show when they normally have some funny
video
> > >clip,
> > > > > > > >they showed President Bush and the First Lady on their way to
> > >Maine
> > > > to
> > > > > > > >leave for Camp David for the weekend.
> > > > > > > >As the video starts, the First Lady is leading the way into
the
> > > > > > > >helicopter with the spaniel dog on the leash, and the
president
> > >is
> > > > > >right
> > > > > > > >behind her with the Scotty on the leash. As the First Lady
> > >entered
> > > > the
> > > > > > > >chopper, the Marine at the gangway saluted and held his
salute.
> > >The
> > > > > > > >Scottie the president was walking decided it wanted to sit
right
> > >when
> > > > > >he
> > > > > > > >got to the steps. The president pulled on its leash, but the
> > >stubborn
> > > > > > > >Scottie persisted in sitting. The president bent down and
scooped
> > >up
> > > > > >the
> > > > > > > >pooch and entered Marine One. After he entered, the Marine
cut
> > >his
> > > > > > > >salute and returned to the position of attention. Moments
later
> > >the
> > > > > > > >President reemerged from the helicopter and out onto the
steps.
> > >The
> > > > > > > >Marine was standing at attention, head and eyes straight
ahead.
> > >The
> > > > > > > >President leaned over and tapped him on the left arm. The
> > >startled
> > > > > > > >Marine turned his body toward the President and received his
> > >returned
> > > > > > > >salute!
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >I was so impressed by this true act of respect for our
military
> > > > people
> > > > > > > >by our President! He really does get it. Most any other
person of
> > >his
> > > > > > > >stature would have just continued his journey, disregarding
the
> > > > > > > >neglected return salute. Not George W. Bush. He is earning
the
> > > > respect
> > > > > > > >of the military community, not expecting it -- as most have
and
> > > > would.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >President George W. Bush; the man who admitted to having a
> > >drinking
> > > > > > > >problem in younger years, and whose happy-go-lucky lifestyle
led
> > >him
> > > > to
> > > > > > > >mediocre grades in college and an ill-fated oil venture. Who
> > >mangled
> > > > > > > >syntax, and whose speaking miss-steps became known as
"Bushisms."
> > >He
> > > > > > > >came within a hair's breadth of losing the election in
November.
> > >Bush
> > > > > > > >named Jesus Christ as Lord of his life on public TV. Not an
> > >Oblique
> > > > > > > >reference to being "born-again" or having a "life change." He
> > > > actually
> > > > > > > >said the un-PC-like phrase, "Jesus Christ!"
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >On September 11, he was thrust into a position only known by
the
> > > > likes
> > > > > > > >of Roosevelt, Churchill, Lincoln, and Washington. The weight
of
> > >the
> > > > > > > >world was on his shoulders, and the responsibility of a
> > >generation
> > > > was
> > > > > > > >on his soul. So President George W. Bush walked to his seat
at
> > >the
> > > > > >front
> > > > > > > >of the National Cathedral just three days after two of the
most
> > > > > > > >impressive symbols of American capitalism and prosperity
> > >virtually
> > > > > > > >evaporated.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >When the history of this time is written, it will be
acknowledged
> > >by
> > > > > > > >friend and foe alike that President George W. Bush came of
age in
> > > > that
> > > > > > > >cathedral and lifted a nation off its knees. In what was one
of
> > >the
> > > > > >most
> > > > > > > >impressive exhibitions of self-control in presidential
history,
> > > > > > > >President George W. Bush was able to deliver his remarks
without
> > > > losing
> > > > > > > >his resolve, focus, or confidence. God's hand, which guided
him
> > > > through
> > > > > > > >that sliver-thin election, now rested fully on him. As he
walked
> > >back
> > > > > >to
> > > > > > > >his seat, the camera angle was appropriate. He was virtually
> > >alone
> > >in
> > > > > > > >the scene, alone in that massive place with God, just him and
the
> > > > Lord.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >Back at his seat, George H. Bush reached over and took his
son's
> > > > hand.
> > > > > > > >In that gesture his father seemed to say, "I wish I could do
this
> > >for
> > > > > > > >you, son, but I can't. You have to do this on your own."
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >President George W. Bush squeezed back and gave him a look of
> > >peace
> > > > > >that
> > > > > > > >said, "I don't have to do it alone, Dad. I've got Help."
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >What a blessing to have a professing Christian as President.
> > >Please
> > > > > >take
> > > > > > > >a moment after you read this to "pray for him." He truly does
> > >have
> > > > the
> > > > > > > >weight of the world on his shoulders. Pray that God will
sustain
> > >him
> > > > > >and
> > > > > > > >give him wisdom and discernment in his decisions.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >Pray for his protection and that of his family.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > >
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