Here's a couple you haven't mentioned - You can still get a reaction from it in winter. The oil is always in the vine. - Don't burn it! Oil particles will become airborne in the smoke. In this case, it will be all over you AND IN YOU! I have never actually seen anybody who had done this, but I hear horror stories from people who have. In dealing with PI, I tell all my scouts to remember 2 phrases: 1) leaflets 3, leave it be; berries white, run with fright 2) never poke your weiner on a fuzzy stick (the stems of PI have little white roots sticking out all over them. That's how they stick to tree trunks) I personally haven't had a PI reaction from caching yet - knock on head. I use a big hiking stick to poke around in the leaves. I even use it to hold limbs and large weeds to the side while I walk by. I only stick my hand in After I am sure I will grab a cache. Then, I wash my hands whenever I can. Works for me... We had one Scout at summer camp who got into it. The people in the first aid lodge just cleaned his arm and put steroid cream on him. I am not sure if he got a shot or not, but I doubt it. In a couple hours the rash was gone - just like magic. The only thing he had left was one large red spot where he had been scratching. Of course, we dealt with it before it was blistering and oozing. P.S. As this is my first post to your group, I will also introduce myself. My caching alias is Brettd. I am from Liberty, MO (KC Area). I am a Boy Scout leader and enjoy caching very much (I have just over 75 found and 18 placed). I don't get to go caching nearly enough, though. You have a very active discussion group here. You should be proud of that. Hope you don't mind an outsider putting his two cents in... -Brett -----Original Message----- From: geocaching-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:geocaching-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Jen Guyer Sent: Sunday, July 21, 2002 9:54 PM To: geocaching@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [GeoSTL] Re: Poison Ivy >> It was all over my arms and streaks of it down the side of my face where I wiped the sweat off. << Mine was like this. It was kind of interesting guessing how I spread it to the different parts, esp that straight line down the face. I managed, by sheer will power (I did not want steroids) to avoid going in and getting a shot. My MIL is a doctor and I was on the phone with her every day, but I knew if I *saw* a doctor, I would get one of those "hate to see it like this" comments. I learn about pi by experience, bad experience. When I was a kid, I thought you got it by touching the leaves. So I picked some so I could show someone else what it looked like so they could avoid it. Lesson #1, it ain't the leaves! That one was bad, but not as bad as this. Lesson #2, yes you can get it from "dead" vines. We went to hunt the Finger Lakes cache last fall and my SIL kept telling me not to grab the trees cause those brown vines were pi. Naw, dead vines can make you break out. Oh yes they can! Still not as bad as this time! Hopefully, I have graduate from the school of poison ivy hard knocks and can live the rest of my life with only the occasional small bumps! Jen **************************************************************************** * Our NEW WebPage! WWW.GeoStL.com Mail List & Archive Info. //www.freelists.org/cgi-bin/list?list_id=geocaching Msg. of the day, "These days, I spend a lot of time thinking about the hereafter... I go somewhere to get something and then wonder what I'm here after. **************************************************************************** ** ***************************************************************************** Our NEW WebPage! WWW.GeoStL.com Mail List & Archive Info. //www.freelists.org/cgi-bin/list?list_id=geocaching Msg. of the day, "These days, I spend a lot of time thinking about the hereafter... I go somewhere to get something and then wonder what I'm here after. ******************************************************************************