[GeoStL] Re: December 31st, 2010,terracaching will shut down

  • From: Bear <brawnybear@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: "geocaching@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <geocaching@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2010 17:38:45 -0600

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Agreed. More cowbell!!!


Mike Griffin
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On Nov 30, 2010, at 4:36 PM, "Mr. President" <mogamoga2010@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> 
> I think we need more cow bell!  :-D
> 
> 
> 
> > From: junkmailno@xxxxxxxxxxx
> > To: geocaching@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: [GeoStL] Re: December 31st, 2010,terracaching will shut down
> > Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2010 14:14:17 -0600
> > 
> > -
> > Caching was much more fun back in the early days when the cache placers
> > would take the time to find an interesting location or hide a cache in a
> > creative or sneaky way. My preference would be for cache places to return
> > to this way of hiding caches instead of the if you can throw a cache
> > somewhere, it is OK or thinking of easier and lamer ways to get numbers
> > (like the video I posted the link to). In those days, we would describe
> > caching as looking for tupperware in the woods. Now it is lifting lamppost
> > covers to put a sticker on a log in a film canister. 
> > 
> > I agree few cachers would label their caches "lame" and what constitutes a
> > quality cache is in the eye of the beholder. But when you talk about a lame
> > cache most experienced cachers know the kind of caches you are talking
> > about. "Caches that do not take you to an interesting location or are not
> > hidden in a creative or challenging way" is objective criteria and is a
> > reasonable way to describe lame caches. If these kinds of caches are
> > allowed, there should be a way to filter them.
> > 
> > It would be interesting to conduct a survey, but I bet while there are some
> > cachers who think numbers are everything, I bet the vast majority of cachers
> > would rather find an easy cache at scenic/historic spot than pick up a
> > lampskirt in a Walmart parking lot or pull a key holder off a guardrail by a
> > busy highway. While that video I posted the link to shows some people enjoy
> > relaying cache containers from one highway marker to the next, my bet is
> > they are in the minority. Instead of having quantity caches overwhelm
> > quality caches, why not set up numbers courses where the numbers hounds can
> > go in circles finding the same caches over and over again. Its just as easy
> > to find the same cache over and over again as finding a cache on these
> > number runs. 
> > 
> > Jim Bensman
> > "Nature Bats Last" 
> > 
> > PS Puzzle caches cannot be filtered by ? - other types of caches are also ?.
> > But unlike the overwhelming numbers of numbers caches, you can generally
> > deal with them.
> > 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: geocaching-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:geocaching-
> > > bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Andrew Senger
> > > Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 2010 12:50 PM
> > > To: geocaching@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > Subject: [GeoStL] Re: December 31st, 2010,terracaching will shut down
> > > 
> > > -
> > > I think you fail to see Mike's point, which is that Jim's idea of a
> > > good cache isn't necessarily my idea (or your idea, or Mike's idea) of
> > > a good cache. The point of the filters is to find caches that meet a
> > > certain criteria that anyone would agree is a good description of the
> > > cache. To add a "lame" criteria would be impossible to judge
> > > objectively.
> > > 
> > > As someone else mentioned, a rating system would be the best idea.
> > > However, rating systems are flawed, too.
> > > 
> > > Andrew Senger
> > > asenger@xxxxxxxxx
> > > http://www.yawetag.net
> > > "In the land of the blind, the one-eyed man is king. He's also
> > > postmaster and probably traffic cop, too. All the jobs for sports
> > > referees are probably filled, though." --Lemel Hebert-Williams
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > On Tue, Nov 30, 2010 at 12:44 PM, Mike Lusicic <lusicic@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > wrote:
> > > > -
> > > > It may be that he does grasp your point. Perhaps he agrees that he
> > > will only
> > > > do the kind that he likes, but the problem is that there is no
> > > facility
> > > > provided by GC.COM to differentiate the kind he likes from those that
> > > he
> > > > doesn't. For example, there is a puzzle type, and he can successfully
> > > > identify those. There is no "lame" tag that he can use to filter out
> > > the
> > > > ones that are what he considers lame. A difficulty of 1 could apply
> > > to a
> > > > good cache in the woods as well as a lamp post cache, so it isn't a
> > > very
> > > > good indicator.
> > > >
> > > > I do see that finding a category that doesn't seem demeaning to the
> > > numbers
> > > > people might be difficult. But then again, it may be easier for them
> > > if they
> > > > can identify the easy numbers oriented caches.
> > > >
> > > > Anyway, I don't mean to speak for you Jim, but am I correct in my
> > > > assessment. Sometimes just saying it differently might help things
> > > along.
> > > 
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