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Event in olney?? There was no Groundspeak sanctioned geocaching
event in olney.
You are right, there are no guidelines for temp caches. Lots of
places think that if you go to the event and play all day, you log
the event once and move on. Around here we sort of do it a little
differently (to the destain of mainly at "reviewers central") but
we still do and log temp caches at our *groundspeak events*.
Nothing at all prevents anyone from setting up a cache and having
people log against it for anything that they want. Folks do it all
the time but why would you log non-groundspeak events on a
groundspeak page? We could just as well log our Easter egg finds
there, our score in monopoly throw in some more finds because we
drove up to quincy a while back i think a smiley for every 5 miles
is about right. I bought gas twice last week, I should go ahead
and log them too. Absolutely nothing stops anyone from logging
finds on anyones cache page but none of that has anything to do
geocaching.com so why bother.
MOGA was a Geocaching.com sanctioned event. Very different from
the mythical town festive in Olney.
Temp caches and policy... Jeramy has made it pretty clear that for
the most part, we (Groundspeak volunteers) are not the log police
and it is NOT about the numbers. That is why the stats support is
not high on the to-do list. If folks want to log an extra for
finding a cache in the rain, so what. If folks want to claim each
leg of a multi cache and (even tho it is discouraged), so what. If
folks want to claim the same cache 27 times, who cares. It is like
finding your own caches, sure you can do it, but that doesn't make
it right. If may be asinine to *a lot* folks to log temp caches at
an event, but to us around here, it is not. Many find it
unreasonable that MOGA participants had an opportunity to log some
44 caches that we NOT open to the general public, I didn't think
anything of it and it was a bonus for attending and I have taken a
reasonable amount of groundspeak heat for it but we do it
anyway. I like logging well done temp groundspeak events.
What I really dont care for is logging NON-GROUNDSPEAK events on
groundspeak services. Why bother. A fella in Chicago once wanted
to set up a groundspeak cache page so people could log their
navicaches and terracaches on it. It never got listed and the
practice of logging you navicache finds on groundspeak is not supported.
right, and my opinions are always my own as well.
glenn
At 07:37 AM 5/19/2005, Mike Griffin wrote:
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I think the problem lies in that there are no guidelines for event
(Temp) caches on GC. If you think about it, MOGA was totally bogus
as well. Why should we have a LOTEC page and allow 1000's of logs
on an archived cache? However, there is no rule against it.
Opinions don't count as policy! If I attend an event put on by the
townspeople, such as Olney, and they have setup a picnic and
caches for the day, I can attend and have a great time without
logging anything. If one of the people there has multiple caches
out and says to log against their cache page, what prevents this?
Jeremy states this could be abuse of the system. However, no
policy clearly states that event caches should be prohibited from
logging. In my own opinion, when we take the event caches from the
events, we defeat the purpose of that event. If we don't log the
event caches and still have them for fun, I would be more than
willing to go that route. Just remember, there are those that
think if they hit 10,000 finds, they will be transformed into a
higher state of being. They will not come to an event that is not loggable.
I think that Jeremy should once and for all publish guidelines for
temp caches. It is not fair that SLAGA has a LOTEC page and
Wisconsin or Iowa are blasted for even suggesting it. It should be
made clear and then it will not be opinionated, but will be THE LAW!
Opinions expressed here are solely that of ME and do not represent
SLAGA or any other group for that matter.
Mike
----- Original Message ----- From: "Glenn" <Glenn@xxxxxxxxxx>
To: <geocaching@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>; "SLAGA" <geocaching@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2005 11:10 PM
Subject: [GeoStL] Re: Another interesting forum thread.
oops.....
A forum note
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I frown heavily on any form of abuse of the Geocaching.com web site.
Groundspeak has the right to take action against such abuse, such as
locking cache listings and banning users if it comes to that.
Does that answer your question? Let me know if I need to be more direct.
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Jeremy Irish
At 11:00 PM 5/18/2005, Glenn wrote:
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http://forums.groundspeak.com/GC/index.php?showtopic=98578
Seems pretty bogus to me to log non-sanctioned caches at a non
sanctioned "event" on a groundspeak page. If it were up to me, I
would delete the caches, all the logs and delete all the accounts
for abusing the groundspeak services and invite the folks to log
their bogus logs on Naviacache.
But it is not up to me and I bet nothing is ever done about such tom
foolery. Stinky, stinky, stinky.
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Glenn
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