Thank you, yes I have a lot of windows that use constructors, I will recode them so the setRTF doesn't get called there. JM FTC Website: http://www.truenorthsoftware.com/formattedtextcontrol Set List Options (digest and vacation modes): www.freelists.org/list/ftcdev List Archive: www.freelists.org/archives/ftcdev Unsubscribe: Send email to ftcdev-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with "unsubscribe" in the subject field.