It's not semantics. A fundraiser's salary shouldn't be based on how much
he/she raises. It should be a fixed amount with the opportunity for bonuses
if the employer chooses, just like he/she would so for any other employee
in the organization.
You can be the best organization in the world and write the best proposals
in the world but it doesn't mean a donor is going to fund you. What if you
raise $500,000 one year and a $1 million the next year? That doesn't mean
you worked twice as hard or put in twice the hours as the first year.
I work my ass off every year and some years I raise more than other years,
that's why I don't want my salary linked to how much I raise. Other
employees in our organization don't have their salaries linked to anything.
Bonuses are a good way of compensating all employees for a year that is
especially fruitful
On Mon, Jan 17, 2022, 19:04 Zvi Friedman <zvifriedman@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Beth,
I'll add to the quandary. It's theoretically unethical to pay a fundraiser
a percentage and yet it's not unethical to use 100 % of the monies raised
by that employee to cover the cost of that employee. As an illustration, I
worked for an organization that gave a new fundraiser one year to raise
enough money to cover all the costs associated with said employee. The
second year the employee was expected to at least double the amount they
raised in the first year and continue with increases in subsequent years.
That employee was paid a salary which made it "ethical".
So in English, paying a fundraiser 30% of what s/he raises is unethical
but spending 100% of what they raise on them is not. Bottom line is that
Every fundraiser is paid a percentage of what they raise, the only question
is when it's calculated and who assumes the risk. IT'S ALL SEMANTICS.
On Mon, Jan 17, 2022, 17:56 Beth Shapiro <tafkid1@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
This is a fascinating conversation.
I have been working as a grant writer for a long time. And I know that
this is the practice. I tell prospective clients all the time.
"Fundraisers and grant writers don't work on percentages, it is considered
unethical." And I have never done it, because "it is unethical." But the
truth is, I don't quite know why it is unethical. It used to be that grant
writers could add no more than 3% of overhead into a project. Over time
funders realized that they were starving their non profits, and that
changed to 10%. I know that there are people who do work on percentages.
(I recently heard about someone who took 50% of every dollar he raised) I
have only ever read one grant contract that states that you cannot take a
percentage.
Again, this is not something I have done, so please don't tell me it is
unethical. I am questioning why we don't do it.
Thanks,
Beth
Beth Shapiro
054-330-5941
בטי שפירא
0543305941
On Mon, Jan 17, 2022 at 5:41 PM Yehudit Dolgin <ydolginster@xxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
What happens if he makes $20 over the agreed upon amount? $50 - $1000 -
at what point does one say - "THAT is a job well done"???!
On Mon, Jan 17, 2022 at 5:23 PM Avi Silverman <amssilv@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Steve your advice is always valued.
Thank you
On Mon, Jan 17, 2022, 16:07 Steve Solomon <smsolomon22@xxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
There is no industry practice per se. I don't know if you are
adequately paid, underpaid or highly compensated.
The idea of an agreed bonus based on exceeding your targets is a good
practice. Determining the amount using Annie's formula is a reasonable
approach.
On Mon, Jan 17, 2022, 15:41 Avi Silverman <amssilv@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Thank you Arnie. You and Steve are in agreement. 50% of monthly
salary is acceptable industry practice?
On Mon, Jan 17, 2022, 13:58 arnie draiman <ajdraiman@xxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
the acceptable amount is 0. zero. it's not how the profession works!
if you feel you are entitled to a bonus for a job well done, then
stipulate a fair amount - 50% of one month's salary (or whatever). but
never ever a percentage!
arnie draiman
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From: Avi Silverman <amssilv@xxxxxxxxx>
Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2022 13:51:37 +0200
Subject: [Fundraisers Forum] % of donations
Negotiating a contract. Want to stipulate if I raise beyond my
assigned
goal, I want a percentage of the extra funds that I raised.
Can anyone share what an acceptable % is to ask?
Also is end of the year bonus standard?
Thanks
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