'Free advice is worth the price.' -- Robert Half 'But, paid advice is worth the same, but costs more.' -- Anonymous Regards, AJ -----Original Message----- From: Ghodhbani, Hafedh To: 'Johnson, Alex (Foxboro)'; ''foxboro-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ' '; '''foxboro@xxxxxxxxxxxxx' ' ' Sent: 2/13/2004 11:37 AM Subject: RE: [foxboro] soft tools Thanks Alex for the help. It is very useful for me. Regards -----Original Message----- From: Johnson, Alex (Foxboro) [mailto:ajohnson@xxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: 13 February 2004 16:40 To: Ghodhbani, Hafedh; Johnson, Alex (Foxboro); ''foxboro-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ' '; '''foxboro@xxxxxxxxxxxxx' ' ' Subject: RE: [foxboro] soft tools The AIM*OPC Server is of benefit when you have client applications like ExperTune's PlantTriage that need OPC data to perform their function. PlantTriage is a package that helps with control loop maintenanc. OSI's PI (or Aspen's IP.21) is useful when you need a plant-wide historian that handles lots of data sources (ok, AIM*Historian does that part) and which has a rich client set of applications (AIM*AT Suite is probably weaker here). Does that help? AJ -----Original Message----- From: Ghodhbani, Hafedh To: 'Johnson, Alex (Foxboro)'; 'foxboro-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx '; ''foxboro@xxxxxxxxxxxxx' ' Sent: 2/13/2004 8:24 AM Subject: RE: [foxboro] soft tools Thanks Alex and all. Just to clarify: I have got AIM*AT Suite installed and working well. What are the benefits (technical) of installing OSI's PI and AIM*OPC. Regards Hafedh Ghodhbani Sr C&I Eng British Gas Tunisia Tel: +21674259250 Fax: +21674259449 -----Original Message----- From: Johnson, Alex (Foxboro) [mailto:ajohnson@xxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: 12 February 2004 18:51 To: Ghodhbani, Hafedh; 'foxboro-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx '; ''foxboro@xxxxxxxxxxxxx' ' Subject: RE: [foxboro] soft tools I'm afraid that I don't understand the question. If you are asking me if OSI's PI is a useful product, the answer is, "It must be because a large number of people use it and seem to be happy users at that." If you are asking me if the AIM*OPC Server should be used with OSI's PI, my answer is, "You may use it, but I prefer the standard OSI PI data collector for the I/A Series because it buffers the data on the AW in the event of a network failure." If you are asking me if AIM*AT Suite is sufficient to your needs, I can only say that, "There are a number of customer who have only AIM*AT Suite and do not have PI and seem to be happy with what what it does." If you are asking me if AIM*DataLink can be used with PI Client applications, the answer is, "If the application can use DDE, it can work with AIM*DataLink." If you are asking me if I prefer AIM*DataLink or the AIM*OPC Server, my answer would be, "It depends on the client. If the client supports both DDE and OPC, I'd go with OPC since it is widely used with many other client applications." Did I come anywhere near your question? Regards, AJ -----Original Message----- From: foxboro-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx To: 'foxboro@xxxxxxxxxxxxx' Sent: 2/12/2004 11:13 AM Subject: Re: [foxboro] soft tools Alex, We have AIM, datalink..Do you see any benefit in using these tools PI(OSI)and OPC server.. Regards Hafedh -----Original Message----- From: Johnson, Alex (Foxboro) [mailto:ajohnson@xxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: 12 February 2004 16:34 To: foxboro@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: [foxboro] soft tools The problem with the OPC Server approach though is that it does not buffer data locally on the AW in the event of a network failure. PI's native collector does. I think that makes it much more valuable. Regards, Alex Johnson Invensys Systems, Inc. 10707 Haddington Houston, TX 77043 713.722.2859 (office) 713.722.2700 (switchboard) 713.932.0222 (fax) ajohnson@xxxxxxxxxxx For the latest information on ArchestrA, go to www.invensys.com/Archestra.html. -----Original Message----- From: foxboro-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:foxboro-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Deen, Ron Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2004 4:50 AM To: 'foxboro@xxxxxxxxxxxxx' Subject: Re: [foxboro] soft tools Both products you mention are supported on I/A series. PI is supported through OSI, they provide the piclient/piapi interface that works with FoxAPI. OPC Server is available from on NT/XP platforms. OPC Server functionality is achieved on 50 Series systems by adding a 70 Series box to your configuration. Regards Ron Deen -----Original Message----- From: foxboro-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:foxboro-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Ghodhbani, Hafedh Sent: 12 February 2004 09:06 To: 'foxboro@xxxxxxxxxxxxx' Subject: [foxboro] soft tools Hi list, Do you know if we can use the following soft tools with the foxboro IA system: PI(OSI) for archiving, OPC server.. Hafedh Ghodhbani Senior C&I Engineer British Gas Tunisia tel: +21674259250 fx: +21674259449 ______________________________________________________________________ BG Energy Holdings Limited (a member of BG Group) Registered in England No: 3763515 Registered Address: 100 Thames Valley Park Drive Reading Berkshire RG6 1PT UK Telephone: +44 (0) 118 935 3222 Website: http://www.BG-Group.com This e-mail is intended only for the addressee named above. 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