Since the ladder logic is actually running in the FBM memory and not in the CP I understand some of the limitations in terms of ladder size. It is a very unique idea that other DCS vendors haven't attempted. It fills a small niche but being able to use multiple FBM's in a virtual PLC processor is what would be really useful. Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -----Original Message----- From: Brian Long <blong@xxxxxxx> Sender: foxboro-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Date: Tue, 15 May 2012 06:52:11 To: <foxboro@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Reply-To: foxboro@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: [foxboro] Ladder Logic My original post was asking if anyone knew if Foxboro planned to improve ladder. Your explanation below is one of the reasons we use it and why with some minor improvements we could do away with brandX plc's and the issues surrounding INT30's and / or FDSI's. Thanks, Brian -----Original Message----- From: foxboro-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:foxboro-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of tjvandew@xxxxxxxxx Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2012 6:10 AM To: foxboro@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: [foxboro] Ladder Logic Jeremy, You are right about only being able to set an OFL from one rung and about the size of the ladder, but we recompiled ladder logic routinely with no bumps to the process. We considered that a strength compared to recompiling HLBL sequence code where things could get squirrely. The execution speed of the ladder was the other strength. CIN's and CO's are processed in 3-5ms but bringing in IFL's or passing out to external parameters like OFL's still happens at the PLB block processing cycle. If you need first out functionality for CIN's connected to an FBM the PLB can do it with a "trip trap". But if you need larger scale PLC capability using a real PLC is still a better solution. Cheers, Tom Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -----Original Message----- From: Jeremy Milum <jmilum@xxxxxxxxx> Sender: foxboro-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Date: Mon, 14 May 2012 08:50:24 To: foxboro@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<foxboro@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Reply-To: foxboro@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: [foxboro] Ladder Logic On Tuesday, May 1, 2012, DUNHAM, KENNETH J wrote: > Curious to know what limitations you are referring to? > It's been a long time since I used PLBs, so I could be wrong on some of these, but here is what I recall as some of the things that bothered me at the time * 100 rungs total per FBM * only able to set a particular OFL from a single rung * have to compile everything if editing a single rung, thus the process must be down to make changes -- -- Jeremy Milum _______________________________________________________________________ This mailing list is neither sponsored nor endorsed by Invensys Process Systems (formerly The Foxboro Company). Use the info you obtain here at your own risks. Read http://www.thecassandraproject.org/disclaimer.html foxboro mailing list: //www.freelists.org/list/foxboro to subscribe: mailto:foxboro-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=join to unsubscribe: mailto:foxboro-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=leave _______________________________________________________________________ This mailing list is neither sponsored nor endorsed by Invensys Process Systems (formerly The Foxboro Company). Use the info you obtain here at your own risks. Read http://www.thecassandraproject.org/disclaimer.html foxboro mailing list: //www.freelists.org/list/foxboro to subscribe: mailto:foxboro-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=join to unsubscribe: mailto:foxboro-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=leave _______________________________________________________________________ This mailing list is neither sponsored nor endorsed by Invensys Process Systems (formerly The Foxboro Company). Use the info you obtain here at your own risks. Read http://www.thecassandraproject.org/disclaimer.html foxboro mailing list: //www.freelists.org/list/foxboro to subscribe: mailto:foxboro-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=join to unsubscribe: mailto:foxboro-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=leave _______________________________________________________________________ This mailing list is neither sponsored nor endorsed by Invensys Process Systems (formerly The Foxboro Company). Use the info you obtain here at your own risks. Read http://www.thecassandraproject.org/disclaimer.html foxboro mailing list: //www.freelists.org/list/foxboro to subscribe: mailto:foxboro-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=join to unsubscribe: mailto:foxboro-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=leave