Re: [foxboro] CP280 Power Fails

From: "Ismael_Reyes@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <Ismael_Reyes@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: "foxboro@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <foxboro@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Mon, 2 Dec 2019 14:52:40 +0000

Wondering if this is similar to "MP47481162 Release Notes"?
We had problem identical to MP47481162 on a particular asset.

Seems these notes corrected w/o MEP but required waiting for downtime.
MEP/MRP may be a way to correct w/o downtime.

-----Original Message-----
From: foxboro-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <foxboro-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> On Behalf Of
Maks Wilde
Sent: Wednesday, November 27, 2019 3:43 PM
To: foxboro@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [foxboro] CP280 Power Fails

MEP - Module Exchange Program.
If you have a Customer First contract you likely have access to this program.
Cheers!

Maks Wilde
Senior Process Control Engineer
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On Wed, Nov 27, 2019 at 2:59 PM Sergio Fagundes <sergiofagundes77@xxxxxxxxx>
wrote:

Hello Maks,

We have experienced the same warnings. And we replaced the hw of
primary CP. After that don’t have anymore alarms.

But about your information “ Their final recommendation was to MEP all
FCP280 pairs exhibiting the issue. This fixed the problem.” What do
you mean “MEP”?

Att,
Sérgio Fagundes

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Em 27 de nov de 2019, à(s) 15:23, Maks Wilde <makswilde@xxxxxxxxx>

escreveu:

Hi Roger,
I've seen this problem at multiple sites. It became worse over time,
spamming the smon_log to such extent that we had to inhibit the
alarming

on

the FCPs in question (not great). Working with TAC over a few months
we upgraded the firmware multiple times. Their final recommendation
was to

MEP

all FCP280 pairs exhibiting the issue. This fixed the problem.

Best Regards,

Maks Wilde
Senior Process Control Engineer
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On Wed, Nov 27, 2019 at 11:55 AM Smith, Roger <rsmith@xxxxxxx> wrote:

Thanks Tony,

We'll check that out.

Roger Smith
Process Control
Green Bay Packaging
Arkansas Kraft Division
Desk (501)354-9569
Mobile (501) 208-7635
Email: rsmith@xxxxxxx

-----Original Message-----
From: foxboro-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <foxboro-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
On Behalf Of Stankiewicz, Anthony P.
Sent: Wednesday, November 27, 2019 10:12 AM
To: foxboro@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [foxboro] CP280 Power Fails

Roger,
Not sure if this is related to your problem, but there is also a
kit

for a

ferrite core that goes onto the power cables right next to the plug
at

the

CP baseplate.
See Customer Advisory FCP280, FDC280, and CNI Power Cable Ferrite
Core Requirements, June 5, 2019 Advisory states the following:
Ferrite cores are used to suppress electromagnetic interference (EMI).

It

is better to attenuate system interference presence detected at the

source

before they find their way to multiple high frequency "sneak" paths.

Once

the EMI noise is in the system, it can easily migrate through the
ground system as common mode EMI noise.
These ferrite cores must be installed on all FCP280, FDC280, and
CNI baseplate input power cables to make the EMI emissions and
immunity

levels

fall within the parameters of the EMC directives.
Ferrite cores must be installed on the DC Power cables, as near to
the baseplate as possible, to ensure proper and stable module
communications and installation compliance with EU Directive
2014/30/EU on

Electromagnetic

Compatibility.
Review your installation to determine if you have ferrite cores

installed

and they are completely clamped in place. If you require new
ferrite

cores,

kit AG101EL can be ordered by contacting your local support office.
Each kit will contain (2) BF162YG ferrite cores, (4) cable tie
wraps and

special

instructions.
For orders received prior to June 30, 2022, there will be no charge
for these kits. After this date, ferrites will be available at
standard

pricing.

Regards,
Tony Stankiewicz

-----Original Message-----
From: foxboro-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <foxboro-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
On Behalf Of Russell Boulay
Sent: Wednesday, November 27, 2019 10:56 AM
To: foxboro@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [foxboro] CP280 Power Fails

EXTERNAL MAIL: Caution Opening Links or Files

________________________________

What FCP280 image you running.?

Images above 092024 have compensation for modules with intermittent
reporting of Power Fail messages.

-----Original Message-----
From: foxboro-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <foxboro-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
On Behalf Of Smith, Roger
Sent: Wednesday, November 27, 2019 7:46 AM
To: foxboro@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [foxboro] CP280 Power Fails

[External email: Use caution with links and attachments]

________________________________

We have 4 sets of FT pairs of the CP280.

Roger Smith
Process Control
Green Bay Packaging
Arkansas Kraft Division
Desk (501)354-9569
Mobile (501) 208-7635
Email: rsmith@xxxxxxx

-----Original Message-----
From: foxboro-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <foxboro-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
On Behalf Of Smith, Roger
Sent: Wednesday, November 27, 2019 9:41 AM
To: foxboro@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [foxboro] CP280 Power Fails

Hello All,
For the 2nd time we have had a CP280 start to show failures in
baretail/sysmon log.  We only have a total of 4 CP280's at our site.

Example:

2019-05-20 04:35:17 25CP01 Equip = CHAN_1 SYSMON -00222 CP Power 2

failed

2019-05-20 04:35:17 25CP01 Equip = CHAN_1 SYSMON -00223 CP_Power 2
OK

The failures do not cause the system light to flash green, no * on
the

CP,

but only show up in the log.  The fault occurs and clears within
the

same

second.  And they occurred progressively more often over time (a
couple

of

weeks) Power supplies and connections all look good.  Disconnecting
a

power

connection causes the exact same error.  The first time it occurred
we changed the shadow module but the errors re-occurred.  We then
replaced

the

other partner and the problem went away.  Now the problem has shown
up again on another CP in another area.  We have replaced the
shadow on

that

one and are waiting to see if the errors return.  When I called
them

about

this on the first occurrence TAC told me they had seen this before,
it

was

something about an optocoupler inside the CP and was not a real
power failure.

This time the errors say "CP Power 1" instead of 2.

Anyway, just curious if anyone else has experienced this.  Could it

really

bite us?
Happy Thanksgiving!

Roger Smith
Process Control
Green Bay Packaging

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