[etni] Re: weighty issues : whether to strike and risk harming students
- From: "Adele P. Raemer " <raemer@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <barisil@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, <etni@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 08:57:29 +0200
Hi Barry,
I did not aim at scoffing, and do not consider myself to be sarcastic...but
I guess that depends on the eyes of the reader. But to answer your claim at
the worthiness of being paid for writing the projects in the first place - I
agree.
When we were in the NBA course, we were taught to write a project. I got a
Gmul for that course - which means I am being paid now more money every
month for having taken the course (ah- not a whole lot - but it IS something
- I would, of course, be glad if it were more)- and having written my final
project, which was a project plan - which - if I wish, I can use ad
infinitum, ad nauseum. If I wish to adapt it, improve on it, change the
topic so that _I_ am not bored - THAT is my prerogative.
I love the gesture-project idea... let's see how far you can take that one J
And if anyone can get us more money for working with those 14 year old
gas-passers, I am all for it (and what about compensation for teaching the
lesson AFTER Phys ed?)
Happy Hannuka
Adele
On 11/12/2009 00:02:42, Barry Silverberg (barisil@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx) wrote:
> Wow. You people have really opened up a can of verbs!
>
> How can we be loyal to our union and at the same time not spoil our
> students' grade?
>
> If our students have no project, but we have fudged a grade for them, what
happens when an external tester
>
> appears(i.e. shows up) to test them orally?
>
>
> I have come up with a solution that I can live with, integrity- wise. I
encourage my students to present their project in
>
> gestures. If you look at the grading scale for the project part of the
oral exam you see that it is geared towards a spoken medium.
>
> There should be no objection to a gesture -based presentation.
>
> I tried to get an official OK from Nurit Valency for this, but over the
phone she couldn't
> see my arms and therefore had no Idea of what I was trying to convey.
>
> I have another point to make. Someone recently replied in a scoffing tone
> to the teachers who expect money for project work. After all, was the
> gist of her posting, we
> don't ask for extra money for checking unseens, teaching remedial grammar,
or having to be in classes of 14 yr old boys who pass gas all the time. To
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