From: Resource Room <englishrr@xxxxxxxxx> Subject: Re: heterogeneous classes Jennifer, I agree that students will have a wide range of grades and achievements in English already in second grade. However, if they start in first grade and start to fall behind in second, at least it's early enough to catch and correct. They can catch up by the fifth grade meitzav. I have had a different problem to deal with. In my sector, the preferred grade for *starting* English in 5th grade. If they can't keep up from the very beginning, forget about trying more than a 3 point Bagrut. Last year, I taught 7th and 8th grade classes who had both started learning English after Pesach of 5th grade...so essentially 6th grade. I can tell you, trying to cram four years worth of material in one year into adolescents with shaky self-confidence in a difficult language was pure torture. I'm not currently teaching in that school but may in the future. Any suggestions for how to pull the students through such a situation with their self-esteem intact and some decent English skills? Miriam Jennifer wrote: >Marlene wrote that weak pupils start to get behind in 4th grade. I beg to differ, Marlene; they start getting behind in SECOND GRADE!! Now that Bagrut is over as is the school year to all intents and purposes, I have been meaning to address this problem, which stems, I believe from too little guidance in elementary school. Pupils in many areas are starting English in the first grade, working on the mistaken assumption that the younger one starts, the better. We all “know” that small children pick up languages easily. Of course, this is true if a child is immersed in the new language – goes to school in a country where that language is spoken. It is not true of children learning English as a foreign language; some do; many don’t. Not all children have a good ear for languages, and first grade in classes of 35 often don’t pick up anything – not even colours and basic phrases. Then in second grade they start learning to read – not a bad idea, in itself, if it is taken very slowly. There are many books (too many) for starters, some excellent, some awful. There seems to be no guidance for the teachers as to what to choose. Many teachers of these grades don’t really have the knowledge to choose wisely. They then proceed to gallop through the book, giving periodic exams, which many of the second graders fail! Great start to English! ************************************** ** Join ETNI on Facebook https://www.facebook.com/groups/31737970668/ ** ETNI Blog and Poll http://ask-etni.blogspot.co.il/ ** Etni homepage - http://www.etni.org ** post to ETNI List - etni@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ** help - ask@xxxxxxxx ***************************************