[etni] Fw: re: orals REMINDER FOR NEXT MOED
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- Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2010 08:24:18 +0200
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From: "Barry Silverberg" <barisil@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: orals REMINDER FOR NEXT MOED
IT is infuriating to find that your tester is going by outdated
instructions, hasn't bothered to study the
exam requiremnents, or is just doing whatever he or she damn pleases ( even
if everybody gets 100).
It is infuriating to come to test and find that the class has not been
properly prepared because the teacher didn't bother
getting up to date.
(I am told of one school, a few years ago, where nobody knew that the 'new'
bagrut had come in; they thought it was next year!)
Anyway, I now make a phone call a month in advance for teacher and tester to
iron out their different expectations before the exam.
Barry with 2 rrs.
Bari wrote:
>I absolutely disagree with this and I would be furious if my students were
> interrupted in the middle of presenting their projects simply because
> they'd
> memorized the presentation. They are graded on their ability to converse
> on
> the rest of the exam. 20 points are given for presenting the project and
> clearly they are supposed to learn their presentation by heart or it would
> be nearly impossible for them to be well-organized and to remember to
> include all of the required components.
Motti wrote:
> I for one agree with your tester
> "our well prepared students were very upset." is actually a euphemism for
> students who memorised summaries they wrote at home. Does such a
> memorized
> speech tell us much about the communication skills of that pupil? I think
> not. When I hear such a memorized artificial speech I stop it after a few
> seconds.
Aviva wrote:
> Today, at our "oral" exams we had a really nice tester - so nice in
> fact that she wanted to give a grade for the project even if the students
> hadn't written one- those who were just too lazy to do it. She said that
> if they could speak about a subject why not give them credit for their
> ability to speak for two minutes. Not only that - she says this is done
> quite often! Why not help those students? When we insisted that the
> maximum grade would be 40 (for the interview) she thought we were
> rather strict!
> Another tester refused to allow our girls to speak for 3 minutes about the
> project and insisted only on asking questions. I showed her the rubric
> however she said that she has tested this way for years and has no
> intention to change now! Needless to say, our well prepared students
> were very upset.
> Any other interesting stories out there?
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