May I ask which key you are talking about? If you are referring to the answers posted on the Yoel Geva website et al, these are not official answer keys! The official answer key will only be known on May 31 at the "tidruch". And even these answers are subject to change, as per the feedback of Bagrut examiners who suggest alternative answers which might eventually be accepted and incorporated into the official answer key. So hold your horses before you assume that a certain answer is wrong!! Chag Sameach, Maxine Tsvaigrach -----Original Message----- From: etni-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:etni-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Ask_Etni Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 2010 1:56 PM To: ETNI List Subject: [etni] Fw: re: ambiguous Bagrut Questions ----- Original Message ----- From: Sarah Morris - sxmorris@xxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: ambiguous Bagrut Questions You are definitely right! My two top students in terms of English knowledge this year (F) guessed wrong twice in both matkonot (they gave an answer I would have accepted as logical, but according to the key it was WRONG) and therefore got a grade in the low eighties (minus 16 points!), while a genius with very poor English "guessed right" and got a similar, but undeserved grade (due to all the English mistakes in his writing, he did not get a higher grade).It is an intelligence test, which is absolutely infuriating. Why should they learn correct English, if that does not guarantee them a good grade???? Sarah Morris Ruthi wrote: > I am sorry to sound so geriatric but is anyone else nostalgic for the good old Pre Module exams when we native speakers and experienced non native speaker teachers all agreed as to what the correct answers to the exams were? We used to sit around in a group while the kids were writing and prepare the answer sheets. > Today we run around crazily checking that all is okay with the E module listening (which it isn't!) and barely have time to see the paper.And when we do ,we see that there are discrepancies and arguments among teachers as to which answers are acceptable! > In the cloze and the rewrites there was no such problem. WE had a body of material to teach.We knew what grammar topics would appear in the rewrites,and what kind of questions to prepare our students for in the 5 point literature questions. Am I just too old or is the NBA really more chaotic and less of a language test and more of an intelligence test? ----------------------------------------------- ** The ETNI Rag ** http://www.etni.org/etnirag/ Much more than just a journal ** Etni homepage - http://www.etni.org or - http://www.etni.org.il ** ** for help - ask@xxxxxxxx ** ** to post to this list - etni@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ** ----------------------------------------------- ----------------------------------------------- ** The ETNI Rag ** http://www.etni.org/etnirag/ Much more than just a journal ** Etni homepage - http://www.etni.org or - http://www.etni.org.il ** ** for help - ask@xxxxxxxx ** ** to post to this list - etni@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ** -----------------------------------------------