**** ETNI on the web http://www.etni.org.il http://www.etni.org **** -------- Original Message -------- Subject: quicktionaries From: "Harvith" <lharvith@xxxxxxxxxxxx> It seems to me that we have missed two important points throughout this discussion. One is the issue of money. If the State provided quicktionaries for any student that wanted one, then the playing field would be leveled and it could be considered a legitimate tool. But it doesn't. Do we want a situation where if you have the financial resources you can virtually bypass learning English? Two is what we are testing. If we are testing what has been learned, then the use of an electric translation device by passes this completely. If we are testing knowledge of English, ditto. If we are testing communication in English by any means, then perhaps this is legitimate. Lisa Harvith ##### To send a message to the ETNI list email: etni@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ##### ##### Send queries and questions to: ask@xxxxxxxx #####