[etni] [FWD: RE: ministry response to English teachers
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From: "Bari Nirenberg" <nirenber@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: RE: ministry response to English teachers
I don't think it meant "native speaking teachers" -- I think it meant
teachers of native speaker classes (because those are the classes that
took
modules E, F and G this year).
This is only an assumption, as I am not connected in any way with the
group.
Bari
Kobi wrote:
> Hi everyone,
> I'd like to comment about this as well...
> Well, I also have some things I agree about this letter and some things
> I don't (both the letter written by the "English teachers" and the response)
> but there's another thing that really disturbs me about the response of
> the so called "NativeEnglishSpeakers"... When did the group, the one group,
> of English Teachers in Israel become 2 groups??? When did the Native
> Speakers become a different group than we "Sabre" teachers??
> I have to say that I find this notion extremely disturbing, next thing
> we know there's an ETNIEG (etni for English Speakers)
> Just a thought...
Mordechai wrote:
> I don't know who "NativeEnglishSpeakers" are, but agree to every word
> they/he/she wrote. The answer given by the ministry doesn't hold water.
Native English Speaker Teachers wrote:
> We have been quiet lately because - despite everything else - we still
> believed in the system. We still believed that over the past years,
> through hard work both on the part of teachers and Ministry personnel, an
> element of mutual respect has been created.
> A mutual respect where teachers learned to question, understand better
> and appreciate new initiatives set out for them by the decision
> makers. And where the decision makers learned that teachers have
> something to say,
> that their experience in the field both past and present lends valuable
> input to the decision making process.
> But now we are in danger of losing all of this. For we were told that
> the next day would be bright and sunny. And when we woke up that
> morning and saw that it was raining, no one believed us. No one in
> the Ministry was even willing to look out the window and see that it was
> raining.
> We now know that it didn't matter how many of us reported the rain. It
> didn't matter what happened that day on the test. The Ministry had
> decided beforehand that it would be bright and sunny, and they will
> stick to this prediction no matter what.
> We ask you - those of you who are a part of the decision making
> progress - is it worth throwing out the hard earned respect that has
> been acquired between the Ministry and teachers in the field over the
> past decade just because of one test? Is it worth going back ten,
> twenty, thirty years where it is YOU against US, just because you
> can't admit that maybe you were wrong?
> If so, this is a very sad day in the history of English teaching in
> Israel.
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