**** ETNI on the web http://www.etni.org.il http://www.etni.org **** Content-type: text/plain; x-avg-checked=avg-ok-3DA3585F; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT At 10:44 30/10/03 -0800, Rivka Lewenstein wrote: >I respectfully disagree with Batya. It's true that I wasn't able to be >present at her workshop, which I'm sure gave a lot of helpful suggestions, >but from everything she wrote last year (and Batya, please correct me if >I'm wrong), the solutions for a no-Internet school were more for the 1 and >3-point levels. For higher level projects, this is, indeed, a real >problem. I know of teachers who just sent their students "to find >material" (not online), and the In some ways it's easier for the higher level student. First of all, these aren't supposed to be full-size research papers. In actuality they only need a few sources. Quite a few of us teach in dormitory schools with neither computers nor research time at home, as if the homes have facilities. In addition we have very few hours. The boys in yeshivot are expected to be in the beit medrash in the evenings, not doing English homework. First find material. First go through old and sample English textbooks--I'm trying to go through our collection, and it's great!!! Try to get donations of old news magazines, encyclopedias, foreign history/science textbooks. Elementary school may be a better level, or junior high. Plan your projects around the material you have, or can be made available to your students. I participated in a hishtalmut in which we searched for material for weak learners, both on and offline. Everything was too difficult, and it was pretty obvious that for the higher level student you have many more options. Good luck, Batya ps Should I seriously think of giving another workshop? ##### To send a message to the ETNI list email: etni@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ##### ##### Send queries and questions to: ask@xxxxxxxx #####