[elky] Re: Wrecks (I sent this to the Nova list, figgered I might as well post it here)

  • From: "Rick Draganowski" <dragan@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <elky@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Sat, 13 Nov 2010 09:38:18 -0800

Thanks for the story and the great pictures. What a day you had!

Rick Draganowski
(Soli Deo Gloria)
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: John Christensen 
  To: elky@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
  Sent: Saturday, November 13, 2010 3:12 AM
  Subject: [elky] Re: Wrecks (I sent this to the Nova list, figgered I might as 
well post it here)


  I actually saw the wreck on the monitors when it happened. I was in the main 
building, and watched the safety crew get mobilized. It was interesting. All 
the pictures are here. The monitors are in this link. The bottom left picture 
shows the monitors. the lower middle monitors show the car in the fence with 
tire barriers. 

  Basically, this is the place where most people lose control at Road America I 
am told. It's called the "Kink", and it's a very high speed straight with 2 
slight bends in it. This guy was taking the second bend too fast and hit the 
wall on one side, lost control and went in to the tire barriers at the turn in 
the end. There is a corner called Canada Corner after this Kink, that Rich and 
I got a little sideways in about 10 minutes before. We were in Group 1 (the 
fastest group) and this guy was in Group 2 of 5 different skill and speed 
classes. The kink is well over 100 mph, and the main straight, going uphill, we 
were over 160. The Noble, with 650 hp to the crank, and 550 to the wheels, at 
between 2100 and 2300 pounds, is a real rocket. We passed the Ford GT's and 427 
Cobras like they were standing still. They saw us coming, and waved us politely 
past, then I watched them vanish in the rear view mirror. What a ride. 0-60 in 
3 seconds, 0-100 in 4. Look it up, there aren't many things faster at any 
price. He has about $150-180K in it is my guess, and the only things that can 
keep up, are race prepared Vette's with carbon fiber everything and custom LSx 
engines costing half a million. 

  As it turns out, I was the last person to ride in the Noble at Road America 
with Richard. The next day, Richard set the course record for a street legal 
car. He bested the record the following Spring with it, but now drives a Carbir 
exclusively with a Cosworth 4 cylinder engine. It gets better lap times, but 
doesn't have the acceleration that the Noble has, and it is a single seat car. 
This is an example: 
http://www.race-cars.com/carsales/other/1225378363/1225378363ss.htm 

  Pictures of me and Rich.  Also his dad Stan who is my good friend. He is in 
the final stages with his battle with Cancer. The whole family is going down to 
Puerto Vallarta to spend some time together in a few days while he still can 
manage. I will be calling them today before they go.  

  That's the story Rick!
  JC


  On Fri, Nov 12, 2010 at 9:54 AM, Rick Draganowski <dragan@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> 
wrote:

    The skinny alloy wheel spokes breaking are not a surprise as they have less 
than ten percent of the necessary strength to tolerate an accident. Looks 
aren't everything. 

    I wonder what the whole story is on this wreck. It would be interesting to 
know some of the technical details like speed and what was hit and why etc..

    Rick Draganowski

      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: John Christensen 
      To: elky@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
      Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2010 7:18 PM
      Subject: [elky] Re: Wrecks (I sent this to the Nova list, figgered I 
might as well post it here)


      I like the picture of the radiator, and the wheel from that one too. 

      JC


      On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 11:54 AM, Ray Buck <rbuck@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

        Oh, yeah.  I forgot about that and the fact that it was your photo.  
Congrats on a good one and gettin it in on a blind choice.  

        Btw, don't try to go there...I took that section down Monday like I 
said I would.  But the pic's attached.

        r



        On 11/6/2010 12:00 AM, John Christensen wrote: 
          Hey! I made the top 120 list with this one: 
http://www.raytherat.com/wrecks/It%27ll%20buff%20out%2006_jpg.html

          That guy literally said "We got a half of mile of tubing back at the 
garage. We'll fab something up and put the running gear in it". Too much 
money.... combined with lack of skill and sense. Obviously a dangerous 
combination. 

          I have seen some of these in emails over the years. 

          Thanks,
          JC


          On Fri, Nov 5, 2010 at 10:40 PM, Ray Buck <rbuck@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

            Ok.  Here ya go:
            http://www.raytherat.com/wrecks/Welcome.html

            I removed the shots I knew to be fatal, but lookin at some of the 
others, I don't see how they could help but be anything else.  Some are kinda 
funny (in a "Stupid People Tricks" kinda way) some are scary as hell and 
others...well, there are a couple that might belong to someone on this list.  
If that's the case, I'm not doing this to make light of anyone's suffering.

            I'm gonna leave this up thru Monday, then take it down cuz there 
are probably some copyright violations here.  But if ya like seein wrecks, here 
they are.  No, I'm not bored.  I'm avoiding work.  And now I'm goin to bed.

            r


            On 11/5/2010 7:26 PM, Karl Napieray Kirchner wrote: 
              yeah,yeah...........or yell and yell........clap,clap.
              karl in ken-tuck

              From: cossey@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
              Sent: Friday, November 05, 2010 7:50 PM
              To: Ray Buck ; wes 
              Cc: Nova List 
              Subject: Re: [Nova] speaking of harmless fun...

              Lets here it for coach Ray!!!
                ----- Original Message ----- 
                From: Ray Buck 
                To: wes 
                Cc: Nova List 
                Sent: Friday, November 05, 2010 6:49 PM
                Subject: Re: [Nova] speaking of harmless fun...

                Well, well, well.  I'd give out a POD if I knew who he (or she) 
was!

                Ray
                Left Offensive Line Man
                Utah Spazz, PWAL
                (not to mention founder thereof...but that don't count for 
much.)



                On 11/4/2010 4:28 PM, wes wrote: 
                  I never knew the PWAL had fans. This may be the first one...

                  -wes







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