[elky] Re: Wrecks (I sent this to the Nova list, figgered I might as well post it here)

  • From: John Christensen <johncgg@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: elky@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Sat, 13 Nov 2010 05:12:14 -0600

I actually saw the wreck on the monitors when it happened. I was in the main
building, and watched the safety crew get mobilized. It was interesting. All
the pictures are here <http://myelcamino.net/cars/gt40/index.htm>. The
monitors are in this link <http://myelcamino.net/cars/RoadAmerica/index.htm>.
The bottom left picture shows the monitors. the lower middle monitors show
the car in the fence with tire barriers.

Basically, this is the place where most people lose control at Road America
I am told. It's called the "Kink", and it's a very high speed straight with
2 slight bends in it. This guy was taking the second bend too fast and hit
the wall on one side, lost control and went in to the tire barriers at the
turn in the end. There is a corner called Canada Corner after this Kink,
that Rich and I got a little sideways in about 10 minutes before. We were in
Group 1 (the fastest group) and this guy was in Group 2 of 5 different skill
and speed classes. The kink is well over 100 mph, and the main straight,
going uphill, we were over 160. The Noble, with 650 hp to the crank, and 550
to the wheels, at between 2100 and 2300 pounds, is a real rocket. We passed
the Ford GT's and 427 Cobras like they were standing still. They saw us
coming, and waved us politely past, then I watched them vanish in the rear
view mirror. What a ride. 0-60 in 3 seconds, 0-100 in 4. Look it up, there
aren't many things faster at any price. He has about $150-180K in it is my
guess, and the only things that can keep up, are race prepared Vette's with
carbon fiber everything and custom LSx engines costing half a million.

As it turns out, I was the last person to ride in the Noble at Road America
with Richard. The next day, Richard set the course record for a street legal
car. He bested the record the following Spring with it, but now drives a
Carbir exclusively with a Cosworth 4 cylinder engine. It gets better lap
times, but doesn't have the acceleration that the Noble has, and it is a
single seat car. This is an example:
http://www.race-cars.com/carsales/other/1225378363/1225378363ss.htm

Pictures of me and Rich.
<http://myelcamino.net/cars/RoadAmerica/index.htm>Also
his dad Stan who is my good friend. He is in the final stages with his
battle with Cancer. The whole family is going down to Puerto Vallarta to
spend some time together in a few days while he still can manage. I will be
calling them today before they go.

That's the story Rick!
JC


On Fri, Nov 12, 2010 at 9:54 AM, Rick Draganowski <dragan@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>wrote:

>  The skinny alloy wheel spokes breaking are not a surprise as they have
> less than ten percent of the necessary strength to tolerate an accident.
> Looks aren't everything.
>
> I wonder what the whole story is on this wreck. It would be interesting to
> know some of the technical details like speed and what was hit and why etc..
>
> Rick Draganowski
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
>  *From:* John Christensen <johncgg@xxxxxxxxx>
> *To:* elky@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>  *Sent:* Thursday, November 11, 2010 7:18 PM
> *Subject:* [elky] Re: Wrecks (I sent this to the Nova list, figgered I
> might as well post it here)
>
> I like the picture of the 
> radiator<http://www.myelcamino.net/cars/gt40/pages/IMG_4684.htm>,
> and the wheel <http://www.myelcamino.net/cars/gt40/pages/IMG_4690.htm>from
> that one too.
>
> JC
>
> On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 11:54 AM, Ray Buck <rbuck@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>> Oh, yeah.  I forgot about that and the fact that it was your photo.
>> Congrats on a good one and gettin it in on a blind choice.
>>
>> Btw, don't try to go there...I took that section down Monday like I said I
>> would.  But the pic's attached.
>>
>> r
>>
>>
>> On 11/6/2010 12:00 AM, John Christensen wrote:
>>
>> Hey! I made the top 120 list with this one:
>> http://www.raytherat.com/wrecks/It%27ll%20buff%20out%2006_jpg.html
>>
>> That guy literally said "We got a half of mile of tubing back at the
>> garage. We'll fab something up and put the running gear in it". Too much
>> money.... combined with lack of skill and sense. Obviously a dangerous
>> combination.
>>
>> I have seen some of these in emails over the years.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> JC
>>
>> On Fri, Nov 5, 2010 at 10:40 PM, Ray Buck <rbuck@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>
>>> Ok.  Here ya go:
>>> http://www.raytherat.com/wrecks/Welcome.html
>>>
>>> I removed the shots I knew to be fatal, but lookin at some of the others,
>>> I don't see how they could help but be anything else.  Some are kinda funny
>>> (in a "Stupid People Tricks" kinda way) some are scary as hell and
>>> others...well, there are a couple that might belong to someone on this
>>> list.  If that's the case, I'm not doing this to make light of anyone's
>>> suffering.
>>>
>>> I'm gonna leave this up thru Monday, then take it down cuz there are
>>> probably some copyright violations here.  But if ya like seein wrecks, here
>>> they are.  No, I'm not bored.  I'm avoiding work.  And now I'm goin to bed.
>>>
>>> r
>>>
>>>
>>> On 11/5/2010 7:26 PM, Karl Napieray Kirchner wrote:
>>>
>>>  yeah,yeah...........or yell and yell........clap,clap.
>>> karl in ken-tuck
>>>
>>>  *From:* cossey@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> *Sent:* Friday, November 05, 2010 7:50 PM
>>> *To:* Ray Buck <rbuck@xxxxxxxxxxxx> ; wes <wes@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> *Cc:* Nova List <nova@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> *Subject:* Re: [Nova] speaking of harmless fun...
>>>
>>>  Lets here it for coach Ray!!!
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>  *From:* Ray Buck <rbuck@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> *To:* wes <wes@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> *Cc:* Nova List <nova@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> *Sent:* Friday, November 05, 2010 6:49 PM
>>> *Subject:* Re: [Nova] speaking of harmless fun...
>>>
>>> Well, well, well.  I'd give out a POD if I knew who he (or she) was!
>>>
>>> Ray
>>> Left Offensive Line Man
>>> Utah Spazz, PWAL
>>> (not to mention founder thereof...but that don't count for much.)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 11/4/2010 4:28 PM, wes wrote:
>>>
>>> I never knew the PWAL had fans. This may be the first one...
>>>
>>> -wes
>>>
>>>
>>
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