since opinions differ, let us follow the letter of the rules even though
some are not certain about it
off course we do that no matter who controls Denmark
On Wed, Jun 27, 2018 at 9:58 PM, Dimitris Stavr. <poliorkitis@xxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
trying to interprete/imagine what could be intended,
to my view the siege is irrelevant to crossing. it is restricted to the
city. it takes place out of the city walls and besieging forces are not
spread all over the area. so they cannot bother an enemy corps (or friendly
to the besieged garrison) to enter the area and attempt to break the siege.
in addition, even the presence of a navy wouldn't be enough to protect
them frrom incoming army.
on the other hand, assuming that Copenhagen had Russian garrisons. then
again without the presence of navy, Danes could cross the arrow and lay
siege.
BUT with the presence of navy, hence the support needed to *dominate
these **extremely narrow areas* then the crossing would not be possible.
to me this is realistic and adds value to the location of Copenhagen
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*From:* eiagreek-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <eiagreek-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> on
behalf of NIKOLAOY DHMHTRIOS <nikolad1@xxxxxxxxx>
*Sent:* Wednesday, June 27, 2018 21:38
*To:* eiagreek@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
*Subject:* [eiagreek] Re: moving via Danish sea crossing arrows
This I really doubt
The game, as has been proven time and again, has simply not been
playtested thoroughly
If a besieged city had the ability to cover an arrow-crossing then the XXX
would have to end up in the city and not in the surrounding countryside
behind enemy lines
Στις 2018-06-27 21:27, Dimitris Stavr. έγραψε:
please consider that we can interprete what was intended as well as what
is written.
relieving the city from a siege could be also an option that was intended
to be included
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*From:* eiagreek-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <eiagreek-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> on
behalf of Makis Xiroyannis <makis.xiroyannis@xxxxxxxxx>
*Sent:* Wednesday, June 27, 2018 21:11
*To:* eiagreek@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
*Subject:* [eiagreek] Re: moving via Danish sea crossing arrows
1. Absolutely
2. I too have doubts. The wording of the rule only mentions "garrisons"
and not "unbesieged garrisons" where in other cases it mentions so.
Therefore following the letter of the rule, you can pass through. But I
have doubts it was intended, so whatever we decide will work from now on.
On Wed, Jun 27, 2018 at 8:54 PM, NIKOLAOY DHMHTRIOS <nikolad1@xxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
If no fleet is in the sea area there is no problem with moving over
crossing arrows
As for a besieged garrison allowing the use of a crossing arrow despite
the presence of an enemy fleet in the area I have my doubts
Στις 2018-06-27 20:50, Dimitris Stavr. έγραψε:
what about this ??
1. do we agree that Danes can move via 1st crossing arrow, because of
no fleet presence on the sea area? or they would be able to move anyways?
2. do we agree that Danes can move via 2nd crossing arrow, because of
Danish garrison presence in Copenhagen?
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*From:* eiagreek-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <eiagreek-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> on
behalf of Dimitris Stavr. <poliorkitis@xxxxxxxxxxx>
*Sent:* Wednesday, June 27, 2018 20:11
*To:* eiagreek@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
*Subject:* [eiagreek] moving via Danish sea crossing arrows
7.3.1.3.3 Sea Crossing Arrow Movement: It always costs an extra
movement point to use a crossing arrow. Corps, freikorps and/or cossacks
may not use a crossing arrow if an enemy eet occupies the surrounding
sea
area.
Russian fleets are in blockade boxes, so Danes can move from Hamburg to
the island and then
12.2.1.2 DANISH/SWEDISH SEA CROSSING ARROWS: These areas are
extremely narrow and could be dominated even by the guns of the period.
A eet in the sea area cannot block any of the sea crossing arrows in
Denmark or the one connecting the Copenhagen and Malmo areas if enemy
corps and/or garrisons are located in both land areas connected by the
arrows.
according to the above, Danish corps is on the one side of the crossing
arrow that connects the island with Copenhagen, and danish garrison is in
Copenhagen is on the other side. so Danes can move to Copenhagen.
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*From:* Dimitris Stavr. <poliorkitis@xxxxxxxxxxx>
*Sent:* Wednesday, June 27, 2018 20:01
*To:* eiagreek@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
*Subject:* issues after Russian movemnt
hello all
i've noticed 2+1 issues after russian turn
1. is allowed to build a depot in a blockade box?
2. is allowed invasion supply without depot in a friendly port?
3. a corps moving via Danish sea crossing arrows, can reach Copenhagen
if it is under siege?
i will send 3 different mails, with distinct subjects amd with my
initial arguement, to discuss each one if it is necessary
