First off, Clifford Stoll sounds like a whack job who enjoys making people angry. For goodness sakes, he accused the interviewer of using cliffnotes to get his degree! but i digress... Needless to say i don't agree with most of his arguments. to say that computers don't belong in schools is ridiculous. computers play a HUGE role in our society and their role gets larger and larger everyday. to deprive our kids of technological learning experiences would be near neglectful. i teach second grade and i have seen kids that can't "write" compose wonderful stories and poems because they didn't have to worry about writing neatly. Mr. Stoll seems to forget that writing legibly isn't the same thing as writing. and if a child looks something up on the web and is presented with the information, doesn't he or she then have to READ what they found? why does reading have to be solely done in books? there are several programs which have games which teach kids phonetic skills needed for literacy. how is playing a board game with the same purpose any different than playing the game on a computer? why should we ignore this vast system of information? i personally use the internet for information all the time. why can't students? aren't we trying to teach them how to function in society? isn't being able to find and locate information the real sign of intellegence as we discussed in class? for Stoll to say that inner city kids shouldn't have computers because they get stolen and broken is equally ridiculous. i guess you should take out bathroom stalls because kids write graffiti on them. how much do schools spend on bathroom stalls i wonder? i don't think that you can just rely on the fact that kids have exposure to computers outside of school, because the fact of the matter is that 1/2 the kids in my class don't get the opportunity to use a computer and they probably won't outside of school. and to say that computers take away from student-teacher contact is also not true. there are always times when teachers need to meet with small groups and the kids are working independently. why not be at a computer? what is the big deal? it's not like the kids come in the room in the morning and sit at the computer untilt he end of the day! my kids are on the computer for 15-20 minutes at a time. and they often sit together and work on something. there goes his teaching kids to be anti-social point. the only thing i agree with stoll on is the amount that is spent on computers. wif a school has to get rid or art or music (granted i have never heard of a school ousting art or music for computers) in order to obtain computers than i would say the money is not well spent. there are several issues of importance that schools face today, but one is not more important than the other. face the facts, schools shouldn't have to choose between getting a computer or a sandbox. but thanks to federal and state aid being what it is...we have to do just that. marie nestor ------------------------------------------------------------ Class website: http://www.greece.k12.ny.us/taylor/suny/ ------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from this listserv, go to: //www.freelists.org/cgi-bin/list?list_id=edi581 If you have any problems, send an e-mail to: JerryTaylr@xxxxxxx ------------------------------------------------------------