[eccotalk] Re: Should ECCO comment on Nonnas planning application as an organisation?

  • From: Gordon Ferguson <gordon.ferguson@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: eccotalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Mon, 31 Aug 2020 14:48:45 +0100

Scott,

Interesting juxtaposition: What is the difference between the viability of the businesses running market stalls - which should not have been allowed to trade on Sunday - and the viability of businesses on Ecclesall Road?

Yes there are exceptions to the 11.30pm closing 'curfew' on Ecclesall Road, but these are mainly due to historical planning anomalies, such as the fact that Lost and Found inherited the licence to operate as a 'club'.

My take on this is that these exceptions should remain so - and obviously so - and contrary to the drive from government, I would like to see planning law tightened to remove these 'anomalies' that businesses are so ready to exploit in order to make a quick buck at  the expense of local communities.

Gordon

On 30/08/2020 22:27, Scott Royal (Redacted sender scottsroyal for DMARC) wrote:

Well it's nice to not be in a minority of one for once!

I don't support an ECCO response, because I fully support Nonnas and any other business along Ecclesall Road which wants longer opening hours at the weekend.

I've always found it odd that I can stay in Lost & Found across the road until 1am on a Friday and Saturday night or the Porter Cottage until 1am, or the Lescar until midnight or The Nursery until 1am or Kettle Black until 2am, but can't support a local independently owned business in the same way.

I also find it incredible (and infuriating) that I can't get a kebab in Elifs after midnight!

Personally I'll be writing in support. I am seriously concerned that we're facing an existential crisis for a number of our favourite eateries and bars once the government ends furlough and mass redundancies sadly happen. All bars and restaurants nationally currently have seriously restricted numbers of customers at any one time and we have no end in sight to COVID at this time. I just don't see how livings can be made, long term in these circumstances.

I have no problem with a local business having a few more hours a couple of days per weekend, in line with nearby competitors owned by large chains, in order to keep their doors open. For me, the vibrancy of Ecclesall Road is an important reason for living here.

Regards

Scott

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    On Sun, 30 Aug 2020 at 19:17, ramen fides
    <ramenandfides@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
    We both support an ECCO comment.
    Ramen & Fides

    On Sun, 30 Aug 2020, 13:51 Mike and Jan Andrews,
    <botanic88@xxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:botanic88@xxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:

        Hi all

        So far six households seem to support ECCO making a comment on
        this planning application. However, one other household would
        like Nonnas to stay open later. They think ECCO should not
        comment as an organisation.

        I suggest that we ask all our members (including those not
        subscribed to ECCOtalk) what they would prefer. Then we should
        only comment as an organisation if many more households agree
        than disagree. Perhaps we need at least two thirds of those
        expressing an opinion to agree.

        If ECCO chooses to comment as an organisation then I would
        prefer to focus on the core point. Then people who want to
        comment on other points can do so individually. This would
        result in a wide variety of comments being sent to the
        Planning Authority.

        I suggest that the core point is that we like Ecclesall Road
        having a thriving restaurant and bar scene but it should take
        account of our mixed residential area in which there are many
        households with young children and ones with elderly people as
        well.

        The compromise whereby restaurants and bars close at 11.00 or
        11.30 PM and close their terraces at 9.00 or 9.30 PM has been
        accepted by the Planning Authority for many years and we don't
        think it should be changed now.

        Mike Andrews



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