[eccotalk] Re: Ambitious plans for the future of travel inSheffield

  • From: Noel O´Reilly <noeloreilly@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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  • Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2020 10:56:16 +0000

Good point, Citizen Shad! Local democracy starts here.
Citizen Noel

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Dear Noel

I fear that you are right insofar as the politicians believe that these 
discussions belong in another forum but I believe that the discussion needs a 
wider forum such as this because it is forums such as this that will inform and 
involve us, the people, in having the difficult conversations that need to be 
had.

Citizen Shad



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Subject: [eccotalk] Re: Ambitious plans for the future of travel inSheffield



Instead of taxing people on low incomes and the squeezed middle progressive 
economists suggest taxing land and wealth derived from shares. They argue 
policies like austerity are political decisions. But I fear the discussion 
belongs in another forum than this. Have a great week.



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Yes we will have to pay through the nose to recover from Coronavirus. Of course 
no one could possibly countenance taxing the super rich, whose wealth has 
increased by over 25% during the pandemic.............



And the super rich who own the bus companies aren't about to see their source 
of profit undermined by daft ideas like free buses either.



Gordon





On 15/11/2020 16:38, Alexander Basran (Redacted sender a_basran for DMARC) 
wrote:

Whatever the potential merits of this proposal (and there are many in public 
transport schemes) it is unlikely that there will be support for yet more taxes 
rises to pay for it after the tremendous rises we are about to see to pay for 
the Coronavirus costs.



So that would be my response to the “why not” at the present time.

On 15 Nov 2020, at 16:26, Noel O´Reilly 
<noeloreilly@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:noeloreilly@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:

Yes, agree, why not consider free buses, especially as Sheffield blazed a trail 
for it in the past?



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Those of us who have lived here for decades (I came as a student in 1972, 
Chriss was born here) will remember when the bus fares were so cheap - in the 
early 1980s - that there was talk of making the buses free. You have to go to 
the likes of Estonia for that sort of thing these days.



I remember like it was yesterday when I decided to go out with a mate into the 
Peak District on the August bank holiday Monday in 1976. We got to the bus 
station - lived in the east end in those days - to find a queue of double deck 
buses and the place full of people, pouring onto the buses as fast as they 
could pull up and go - all going out to the Peak District, either via Ecclesall 
Road or Abbeydale Road.



It is only libertarian ideology that stops this coming back - if they can do it 
in Estonia which is merely the 100th wealthiest country in the world, whilst we 
are sixth - half our wealth per head -  then why can't we?



Gordon



On 15/11/2020 11:20, Noel O´Reilly wrote:

I've been living in the area for a year and it's great - friendly neighbours, 
vibrant shops and other amenities, great walks urban and rural. Around here, 
Sheffield lives up to its reputation for being the 'outdoor city' with joggers, 
cyclists, ramblers of all ages enjoying the parks and woodland. But there is 
one downside, which is that the traffic congestion on Brocco Bank and Ecclesall 
Road is appalling. During the first lockdown when there was little or no 
traffic the neighbourhood was transformed into an earthly paradise. Much of the 
traffic is probably unavoidable - e.g. freight, deliveries, people who use 
their vehicles for work - but this isn't the case with privately owned 
vehicles. The Sheffield Plan is committed to addressing climate change and we 
can't address that without reducing private car use. And it isn't just an 
environmental issue. Traffic density is a huge health and safety issue, 
associated with asthma and other respiratory illnesses. The only way the 
Sheffield Plan can meet its objectives is to prioritise public transport, and 
that includes taxis, whether in the bus lane or otherwise. As a newcomer, I 
don't know the city as well as most of you, but it's clear to achieve the 
objectives of the plan we need safe cycle lanes on Ecclesall Road, more 
priority given to pedestrians (which might include wider pavements where 
possible), traffic calming to reduce speeding, affordable car share schemes and 
other measures to reduce congestion and improve health and the quality of life. 
Or perhaps we should follow the national government's new plan for Stonehenge 
and double the volume of traffic by digging a tunnel under the city?

Noel, Everton Road





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It's not just about taxis and buses - shared bus and cycle lanes is even more 
dangerous!



On Sat, 14 Nov 2020, 11:41 Scott Royal, 
<dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:

Thanks Gordon



I look forward to seeing the detailed proposals, but Ecclesall Road need more 
than 'improvements to public transport'. Its a vastly wide road with 
ridiculously poor quality, narrow pavements. There is a way of satisfying all 
of the current requirements upon Ecclesall Road (pedestrian, car parking, bus 
routes, cycle routes) but it requires creativity and vision. And money.



But on the very simple scale, they should stop taxis using the bus lane. 
Horribly dangerous.



Perhaps an ECCO response would be appropriate?



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On Sat, 14 Nov 2020 at 10:26, Jose Garcia

<jgarciahome@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:jgarciahome@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:

Hi,



Very interesting, I’ve signed up for updates from the council website and look 
forward to joining the conversation.



Thanks for sharing



José



On Sat, 14 Nov 2020 at 10:14, nick nuttgens 
<nicknuttgens@xxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:nicknuttgens@xxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:

Thanks, Gordon. There will be many devils in the detail but it’s exciting that 
all over the country changes are happening. I believe that many EU cities are 
further ahead, partly because they have greater devolved powers in some 
countries eg control of energy schemes. But change is afoot here. Some ECCO 
members may not know that a consortium of local environmental groups has 
recently won funding from the National Lottery’s Climate Action Fund to develop 
a bid for a big programme of community based low-Carbon projects across South 
Yorkshire. If we are successful in the next round too, we will have £2.5 
million to spend.



A key point here is that every politician or council Officer repeats is that 
the changes to our infrastructure will need public support which means lots of 
discussions need to happen within communities so everyone understands why the 
changes are needed. Many people, even now, don’t talk much about climate change 
so I’d encourage ECCO residents to talk all around the topic, and exchange 
views about the best ways forward. There is a helpful little guide here on how 
to do this: 
https://climateoutreach.org/reports/how-to-have-a-climate-change-conversation-talking-climate/



Best,



Nick

Nick Nuttgens

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On 14 Nov 2020, at 08:50, Gordon Ferguson 
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Note that one of the schemes in this programme is for Ecclesall Road.

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Connecting Sheffield, which will focus on encouraging active travel and 
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Sheffield City Council is launching a new project, Connecting Sheffield, which 
will focus on encouraging active travel and supporting the shift towards 
sustainable transport in and around the city.

Connecting Sheffield will encompass a range of transport schemes focused on 
delivering change for the city’s walking, cycling and public transport 
infrastructure.

The new scheme follows a successful bid made by Sheffield City Region, 
supported by Sheffield City Council, for funding from the Department for 
Transport’s Transforming Cities Fund. Sheffield will receive £50m which will be 
used to improve public transport, walking and cycling links to encourage people 
to leave their car at home.

The funding will deliver the first major step in the Council’s vision to 
transform travel in Sheffield and make it possible for more people to choose 
walking, cycling and public transport first. The reduction in a reliance on car 
journeys, is a priority for the city’s future, not only to help ease congestion 
but to help address climate change and improve air quality in Sheffield. Future 
funding will support further schemes brought forward in subsequent phases.

Lower traffic levels have been seen during the pandemic as people have taken to 
walking and cycling on more journeys. It is hoped that this continues, as 
changes to travel infrastructure are prioritised.

The first phase of the project will focus on key areas that have been 
identified as locations where people are making short car journeys from home to 
work in the city centre and Lower Don Valley, including Neepsend, Kelham and 
Nether Edge. The proposed schemes will enable these to be made more safely by 
cycling, especially for shorter trips, and more quickly and reliably by bus.

The Transforming Cities Fund will focus on improving travel links through the 
following schemes:

  *   Across the city centre
  *   Neepsend & Kelham to the city centre
  *   Nether Edge to the city centre
  *   Magna to Tinsley
  *   The city centre to Attercliffe and Darnall
  *   On Abbeydale Road and Ecclesall Road

More information on the individual schemes can be found on the Connecting 
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All of the proposed schemes will be subject to public consultation, and the 
feedback received will help to inform the development of the routes identified. 
Under the current terms of the funding from the Department for Transport, all 
work must be completed by March 2023.

Councillor Bob Johnson, Cabinet Member for Transport and Development at 
Sheffield City Council, said:

“Connecting Sheffield is a major first step in overhauling our transport 
network to put walking, cycling and public transport at the forefront of travel 
choices available in our city.

“We know that for lots of people, travelling by car is sometimes the only 
feasible way of getting from A to B, but we want to make sure that walking, 
cycling and public transport  are realistic options, especially for getting to 
work and for shorter journeys.

“It is disappointing that we did not receive our full bid for funding from the 
Government. Equally, we could never deliver everything we want to in this first 
phase. Other schemes will come in later phases. However, these projects still 
represent a major first step in developing our plans to create a more inclusive 
and diverse travel network that over time will transform how people move around 
Sheffield.

“Throughout the Covid-19 pandemic we have seen an increase in walking and 
cycling as people have taken the time to get outdoors and explore both their 
local communities and our wonderful parks and countryside, and we hope to make 
it possible for more people to continue to do this.

“Despite current restrictions, bus services will also remain a crucial part of 
our transport infrastructure into the future, helping thousands of people to 
get about. Although improving travel infrastructure may not seem like a 
priority right now, this work is vitally important in making sure our transport 
system is fit for purpose so that people can get to work, access services and 
visit family and friends now and in the future.

We know we have a long way to go to get where we need to be, but we are excited 
to be able to make a start.”

Dame Sarah Storey, Sheffield City Region Active Travel Commissioner, said:

 “I am delighted to see Sheffield launch Connecting Sheffield which will 
deliver their active travel plans over the coming years. We have been working 
closely with Sheffield City Council to enable their ambitions for walking and 
cycling to become a reality. Back in July our new infrastructure standards were 
adopted at the MCA and since then there has been some impressive work going on 
to deliver suitable schemes that will offer active travel alternatives for 
short journeys within Sheffield."

Dan Jarvis, Mayor of the Sheffield City Region, said:

“The Transforming Cities Fund will help to achieve our ambition of a transport 
system for South Yorkshire that is fit for the 21st century.

“By enabling walking and cycling, and improving public transport, these 
Connecting Sheffield schemes will reduce congestion, improve air quality and 
allow people to live more active lives, which will improve their mental and 
physical health.

“Revolutionising how we travel to include modes which are beneficial to the 
health of both the planet and our people is vital as we develop a stronger, 
greener and fairer economy and society for South Yorkshire.”

Martin McKervey, Chair of the Sheffield Property Association said:

“Our cities are evolving. Both investors and people living and working in 
cities are increasingly looking for quality of life, a city that’s easier to 
get around and people friendly, with a cleaner environment. Sheffield is 
ideally placed to deliver on this but it needs the right infrastructure in 
place. That’s why we wholeheartedly support this new vision for Connecting 
Sheffield and look forward to hearing more about the detailed proposals.”

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