Trish and everyone I've misplaced Trish's email questioning the language in Ken Follett's Earthly Powers. Clarys would almost certain have used the old English equivalent of 'grope'. Grope seems to have been the word used for any form of sexual touching so much so that the alley way in London that is now known as Hoop Lane was known from the 14th to the 18th century as Grope C-nt Lane (It runs from Holburn towards Lincoln' Inn Fields). The old English term seem to have become too rude for the Georgians. On this subject I was recently reading a modern American article about the Wife of Bath's tale from Chaucer. At one point in her prologue she says "He would have his hands on my cunny." (well that's what Coghill translates it as) in this article she says "He would touch my vagina." Technically correct but somehow lacks the spirit. Steve -----Original Message----- From: ebooktalk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ebooktalk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Elaine Harris (Rivendell) Sent: 12 June 2013 00:08 To: ebooktalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [ebooktalk] Re: Americanisms and anachronisms. I think it is in the C. S. Harris Regency crime novels where so-called Georgian aristocrats talk about "Someplace else". I don't think so! As grating as the Ben Hurr car! Thank you, Ian and Trish. Am still laughing at Ellis Peters and Stanley Matthews. Take care, Elaine