I just checked the specs these fp motors are actually more powerfull than previous years, but I guess we'll see if that will make a difference at 8,000 rpm the motors have a torque of .2 Nm *2 motors* 5:1 gear reduction= 2 Nm the pulley has about a 2 inch radius which is equal to about .051 meters 2/.051= 39.2 newtons our ball weighs .185 kg but I'm going to go with .2 do to the tolerances of the manufacturing process the accelration of the ball will be 39.2/.2 m/s^2=196 m/s^2 the travel of the ball along the belts will be 25/2-6.3(the circumfrance of a pulley*2 pulleys) + 4 inches (the radius of a pulley* 2 pulleys) which comes out to 10.2 inches which is equivelent to .259 meters we can now calculate the time that it will take the ball to accelerate across the belt .259=1/2*196*t^2 .259=98*t^2 .259/98=t^2 .0026=t^2 .051=t the ball will accelerate for a period of .051 seconds which allows us to solve for the final velocity of the ball which is 9.996 m/s so evidently I screwed up somehow either simply by assuming that the fisher price motors had the same specs as this years or somewhere along the mathmatical proccess also I noticed yesterday that McMaster sells 75 inch v belts which I think could be a possibilty for the loading mechanism however I'm unsure as to wether or not it would be long enough for the second stage of the loader Art Connolly <connollyar@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: Before we order longer belts, could we see the calculations. Potential problem with interior space with longer belts. See an email I'm about to send. Art ----- Original Message ----- From: Karen Hillblom To: eagleengineering@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2006 7:23 AM Subject: [eagleengineering] Re: shooter belts well print out and order form and fill it out make sure that the new belt can fit the existing pulleys later ----- Original Message ----- From: scott morgan To: eagleengineering@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Monday, February 06, 2006 9:56 PM Subject: [eagleengineering] shooter belts according to some calculations I did today we will need to increase the belt length from 25" to 35" in order to accelerate the ball up to full speed in time this was using 1800 rpm for the gearbox output -Scott --------------------------------- Yahoo! Mail - Helps protect you from nasty viruses. --------------------------------- Brings words and photos together (easily) with PhotoMail - it's free and works with Yahoo! Mail.