Actually, they're in computer braille, which is not quite the same as Grade I, which is really uncontracted literary braille. Steve ----- Original Message ----- From: Dale Leavens To: duxuser@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2014 16:48 Subject: [duxuser] Re: Simple question Except that internet addresses and e-mail addresses are always in grade 1 braille so as to mitigate any confusion. Of course there are a bunch of other symbols surrounding such addresses and embedded within them, things like dots 4-5-6 followed by maybe dots 3-4-5 and should there be a slash or back-slash those too are multiple cell symbols. Truly, I can't hardly read braille any more. I realize that I am an aging anachronism resisting change for the sake of my computer which seems unwilling to cooperate in sharing the work. Grumbling off into the past, Dale Leavens. ----- Original Message ----- From: Lewicki, Maureen To: <duxuser@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2014 4:29 PM Subject: [duxuser] Re: Simple question Interesting, Dale, yes I wonder about the ble contraction. My students have never ever been confused by it. However, in today's unconventional writing and internet addresses, a ble in the middle of a string of letters and numbers will be indeed confusing, as we will have trouble deciding if it is a ble or a number, won't we? Maureen Murphy Lewicki Teacher of the Visually Impaired Bethlehem Central Schools 700 Delaware Avenue Delmar, NY 12054 http://bcsd.k12.ny.us/ On Mar 19, 2014, at 4:17 PM, "Dale Leavens" <dleavens@xxxxxxx> wrote: Ambiguity? Humans don't have a single problem with differentiating between "ble" and "#". Is this another case of us humans now working for our computers? No wonder braille literacy is on the decline. with all the symbols now used to designate some of the simplest braille I can't hardly read the modern stuff. Dale Leavens. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert C" <gone.to.dawgs@xxxxxxxxx> To: <duxuser@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2014 3:25 PM Subject: [duxuser] Re: Simple question Oh boy. I threw that document together in a hurry as a cheat sheet before I left home for two weeks and now I cannot find that uhm, error. I was so sure I had seen it but now I cannot. Need more brain food. Thanks tho for trying to help. It was good to have that cheat sheet along. Quote of the nanosecond . . . Change is inevitable, except from a vending machine. --Fun World Robert & Annie Yanni ke7nwn E-mail- Gone.to.Dawgs@xxxxxxxxx On 3/19/2014 11:52 AM, nicky Roos wrote: Which braille translation are you using? What you see as a "ble" contraction is actually the number sign. Nicky * * * * This message is via list duxuser at freelists.org. * To unsubscribe, send a blank message with * unsubscribe * as the subject to duxuser-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx . You may also * subscribe, unsubscribe, and set vacation mode and other subscription * options by visiting www.freelists.org . The list archive * is also located there. * Duxbury Systems' web site is www.duxburysystems.com * * * * * * * This message is via list duxuser at freelists.org. * To unsubscribe, send a blank message with * unsubscribe * as the subject to duxuser-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx . You may also * subscribe, unsubscribe, and set vacation mode and other subscription * options by visiting www.freelists.org . The list archive * is also located there. * Duxbury Systems' web site is www.duxburysystems.com * * *