Well said Jim.
DJH
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On May 7, 2022, at 1:04 PM, Jim Farmilo <akfarmilo2@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Very controversial in some ways but simple as the basic instinct to preserve
a way of life.
The whole thing is perplexing: does Putin not remember Afganistan, Vietnam?
No matter how strong or sophisticated your weapons, you cannot win a war
against people who want to preserve their way of life or die. Is Putin
attempting genocide--yes. Why else does he attack apartments, churches
schools and hospitals with the same enthusiasm as he attacks airfields and
munitions dumps? Is Ukraine his only objective--not on your life.
We need to stand with Ukraine for many reasons. However war itself is the
ultimate atrocity and on a personal level I am not at all comfortable with
bragging about it. I would hope that rather than inflame the enemy to exact
revenge, it would be more effective to have key people "disappear". One by
one, no fanfare, just getting the job done. Boom. Then on to the next.
Jim
On May 7, 2022 11:39 a.m., "Chessor, Edward" <echessor@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
I agree with Rick, we, the UsA and the rest of the world’s democracies have a
responsibility to help the Ukraine in every way we can. That is also very
much in our own interest.
If helping the Ukraine kill Russian generals, and bragging about that strikes
some fear in the hearts of other Russians, as it should, it is the right
thing to do.
Reasoning with Putin is futile, the only way to stop him is to kill off all
the soldiers he sends to the Ukraine.
Ed
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Not just the United States, but the world, including NATO and the United
Nations, should be supporting Ukraine against this violent bully. The
trouble between Russia and the Ukraine may have started in 2014 with the
unhindered annexation of the Crimean peninsula by Russia, but the lack of a
world response back then has led to this present conflict.
I do not think that the United States is overtly bragging, but they are only
providing early enough information of Russia's plans and intentions with
accurate intelligence. This early intelligence has enabled Ukraine to move
its air fleet and armed forces before Russian bombing attempts. Not having
this intelligence would have meant even greater loss of Ukrainian lives and
loss of its ability to defend itself. All of Ukraine's military actions have
been defending itself on its own land and not on Russian land.
The typical behavior of a bully is habitual, repetitive, and aggressively
escalating actions; and Russia will not stop with Ukraine. The conflict will
only end by standing up to Russia and letting them know that the USA and
world will help Ukraine with arms and intelligence help
Rick
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Hi Guys
In the past year, on this group email, we've had a lot of great pictures and
jokes but very little significant conversation .
In the little bit of conversations we have had I see we have a very
politically diverse group.
With that in mind I toss out a topic that will give all sides an opportunity
to comment on.
Please be civil. Your strong opinion may not be totally correct. Treat each
other with respect.
Should the US publicly brag about killing Russian leaders in the Ukrainian
conflict?
My thought is that this is poking a stick at the bear ( pun intended) This is
baiting Russia to do a direct retaliation against the US which means WAR.
I look forward to your thoughts.
Wynn
