Wynn I believe the scientific evidence is overwhelming that most if not all our
recent climate changes are anthropogenic.The warming and cooling cycles on our
planet are well documented and have occurred over millennia.Our current climate
woes are rapid in evolutionary terms related to the industrial revolution.Oddly
Canada May benefit more than it suffers.Large tracts of northern lands may
become suitable for agriculture.Here on the Island we may be able to grow
heavier red wine grapes that require more heat units.Others will be less
fortunate.The southwest US will dry up,Bangladesh will be inundated by the
sea,millions will die of hunger.It’s not a pretty picture.Bryan
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On Oct 27, 2022, at 4:38 PM, Wynn Payne <wynn.payne@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Hi Malcolm
Thanks for contributing.
I totally agree our climate is changing. The arctic has less ice than in the
past. I drove by the Columbia ice fields the other day and found it sad to
see the amount the glacier has retreated since I was a kid.
I also believe the earth goes through warming and cooling cycles that aren't
man made. I don't think man caused the ice age to come upon an earth that was
very moist and swamp like in the era of dinosaurs nor did he cause the ice
age to retreat after that.
How much of climate change, do you think, is man made? As I understand it, we
can only control the manmade portion. If that portion of climate change is
relatively small, then our efforts, with current disastrous effects, are
deemed not too effective in the grand scheme of things.
Thoughts?
Wynn
On Thu, Oct 27, 2022 at 5:14 PM Malcolm Palmer <malcolmfpalmer@xxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
The real question is what are we going to do about climate change?
I have heard skeptics deriding climate change as bogus but the effects we
have observed are consistent
with what the scientists have warned us about. So, what effective responses
do we have?
Malcolm
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Is Saskatchewan correct?
Wynn
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From: Project Confederation <info@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Thu, Oct 20, 2022 at 8:05 AM
Subject: Saskatchewan leads the way
To: Wynn Payne <wynn.payne@xxxxxxxxx>
Wynn,
A lot of media attention of late has been focused on the Emergencies Act
testimonies in Ottawa and Danielle Smith’s rise to the Premier’s Office here
in Alberta.
However, the biggest development in federal/provincial politics in the last
week might actually have happened in Saskatchewan, where Premier Scott Moe
has taken a firm stance against the federal government in a document
entitled Drawing the Line: Defending Saskatchewan's Economic Autonomy.
The paper clearly sets out a problem and then proposes specific solutions.
First, the problem...
The Saskatchewan government has identified nine different federal climate
change policies that are estimated to cost the province a total of $111
billion between 2022 and 2035 - the approximate halfway point to the federal
government’s 2050 net-zero targets.
The costs of each of the nine policies are:
Federal Carbon Tax: $24.7 billion;
Oil and Gas Methane Mandate: $6.3 billion;
Oil and Gas Emissions Cap: $2.6 billion;
Fertilizer Mandate: $19.3 billion;
Clean Fuel Regulations: $34.9 billion;
Zero Emission Vehicle Mandate: $10.3 billion;
Federal Output Based Pricing System: $12.5 billion;
Agriculture Methane Initiatives: $0.5 billion;
Landfill Methane Mandate: $0.2 billion.
Don't forget - these are just the direct costs.
We all know that the energy industry powers every other industry and, since
energy is required to create almost every other product, as energy prices
increase, costs for consumer goods will undoubtedly rise across the board as
well.
Scott Moe and his team have a clear understanding of the problem and are
deeply concerned about the impacts federal environmental policy can have on
the economy.
For a province like Saskatchewan, where total provincial revenue for 2022
was just $17.2 billion, $111 billion is a gigantic cost.
And if that's the cost to our neighbours, imagine what it will cost here in
Alberta!
Remember too, this is just the first half of the federal government's 2050
plan!
The economic costs of Net Zero 2050 are completely lost on the Trudeau
government.
The 2021 Supreme Court of Canada ruling on the constitutionality of the
Carbon Tax, as we noted at the time, creates a dangerous precedent where the
federal government can essentially trample all over the constitutional
jurisdiction of provinces using the Peace, Order, and Good Governance Clause
embedded in the constitution.
This means that the Supreme Court has effectively ruled that the federal
government can take control of practically any issue, simply by claiming
that it is a matter of national concern - completely ignoring provincial
jurisdiction.
Consider that the definition of Confederation, as espoused by the Oxford
English Dictionary, is a union of sovereign groups or states united for
purposes of common action.
Instead, what we now have is a federal government that has decided, upon the
alter of climate change, to sacrifice our livelihoods and, with them, the
very idea of Canada itself.
If we want to save this country, we need substantial reforms to the way this
country is governed.
Thankfully, the Saskatchewan government's paper also proposes some solutions
that include:
Provincial legislation to clarify and protect constitutional rights
belonging to the province.
Pursuing greater autonomy over immigration policy to ensure Saskatchewan has
the people it needs.
Better recognition of Saskatchewan industry's contributions to sustainable
growth – for example, developing a carbon credit market to support our
natural resource industries.
Preparing to take legal actions, legislative or otherwise, to maintain
control of electricity, fertilizer emission/use targets and oil and gas
emissions/production.
Here at Project Confederation, we're very supportive of these ideas - in
fact, many of them are ideas we've been promoting not just for Alberta, but
for all of the west, since we launched as an organization.
So, props to Scott Moe and the Saskatchewan government for pushing us down
the right path.
With your continued support, we can't help but be excited about what we are
capable of as we move forward.
Having seen significant success in Alberta already, we will be expanding our
work all across Saskatchewan and the other western provinces in the coming
months, as we take on Ottawa and prepare for the onslaught of a hostile
federal government over the next few years.
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