It could be. My thought is that the majority of the climate change is the
earth's cycle and not produced by man. I say majority as man certainly
does have an effect. The question is how much.
Europe appears headed for disaster with heating this winter as they
switched to non fossil fuels and have become hostage to Putin.
This is opinion. I would love to know the makeup of climate change.
Wynn
On Thu, Oct 27, 2022 at 9:44 PM Malcolm Palmer <malcolmfpalmer@xxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
Wynn, it sounds like you are suggesting that we have seen the exact same
changes that we are seeing now on the same time scale as right now. Is
that right?
Malcolm
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Hi Malcolm
Thanks for contributing.
I totally agree our climate is changing. The arctic has less ice than in
the past. I drove by the Columbia ice fields the other day and found it sad
to see the amount the glacier has retreated since I was a kid.
I also believe the earth goes through warming and cooling cycles that
aren't man made. I don't think man caused the ice age to come upon an earth
that was very moist and swamp like in the era of dinosaurs nor did he cause
the ice age to retreat after that.
How much of climate change, do you think, is man made? As I understand it,
we can only control the manmade portion. If that portion of climate change
is relatively small, then our efforts, with current disastrous effects, are
deemed not too effective in the grand scheme of things.
Thoughts?
Wynn
On Thu, Oct 27, 2022 at 5:14 PM Malcolm Palmer <malcolmfpalmer@xxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
The real question is what are we going to do about climate change?
I have heard skeptics deriding climate change as bogus but the effects we
have observed are consistent
with what the scientists have warned us about. So, what effective
responses do we have?
Malcolm
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*From:* Wynn Payne <wynn.payne@xxxxxxxxx>
*Sent:* October 27, 2022 12:28 PM
*To:* DSP.EA.Large.Messages@xxxxxxxxx
*Subject:* Fwd: Saskatchewan leads the way
Is Saskatchewan correct?
Wynn
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From: *Project Confederation* <info@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Thu, Oct 20, 2022 at 8:05 AM
Subject: Saskatchewan leads the way
To: Wynn Payne <wynn.payne@xxxxxxxxx>
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Wynn,
A lot of media attention of late has been focused on the Emergencies Act
testimonies in Ottawa and Danielle Smith’s rise to the Premier’s Office
here in Alberta.
However, the biggest development in federal/provincial politics in the
last week might actually have happened in Saskatchewan, where Premier Scott
Moe has taken a firm stance against the federal government in a document
entitled *Drawing the Line: Defending Saskatchewan's Economic Autonomy.*
The paper clearly sets out a problem and then proposes specific solutions.
First, the problem...
The Saskatchewan government has identified nine different federal climate
change policies that are estimated to cost the province a total of $111
billion between 2022 and 2035 - the approximate halfway point to the
federal government’s 2050 net-zero targets.
The costs of each of the nine policies are:
- Federal Carbon Tax: $24.7 billion;
- Oil and Gas Methane Mandate: $6.3 billion;
- Oil and Gas Emissions Cap: $2.6 billion;
- Fertilizer Mandate: $19.3 billion;
- Clean Fuel Regulations: $34.9 billion;
- Zero Emission Vehicle Mandate: $10.3 billion;
- Federal Output Based Pricing System: $12.5 billion;
- Agriculture Methane Initiatives: $0.5 billion;
- Landfill Methane Mandate: $0.2 billion.
Don't forget - these are just the direct costs.
We all know that the energy industry powers every other industry and,
since energy is required to create almost every other product, as energy
prices increase, costs for consumer goods will undoubtedly rise across the
board as well.
Scott Moe and his team have a clear understanding of the problem and are
deeply concerned about the impacts federal environmental policy can have on
the economy.
For a province like Saskatchewan, where total provincial revenue for 2022
was just $17.2 billion, $111 billion is a gigantic cost.
And if that's the cost to our neighbours, imagine what it will cost here
in Alberta!
Remember too, this is just the first half of the federal government's 2050
plan!
The economic costs of Net Zero 2050 are completely lost on the Trudeau
government.
The 2021 Supreme Court of Canada ruling on the constitutionality of the
Carbon Tax, as we noted at the time, creates a dangerous precedent where
the federal government can essentially trample all over the constitutional
jurisdiction of provinces using the Peace, Order, and Good Governance
Clause embedded in the constitution.
This means that the Supreme Court has effectively ruled that the federal
government can take control of practically any issue, simply by claiming
that it is a matter of national concern - completely ignoring provincial
jurisdiction.
Consider that the definition of Confederation, as espoused by the Oxford
English Dictionary, is a union of sovereign groups or states united for
purposes of common action.
Instead, what we now have is a federal government that has decided, upon
the alter of climate change, to sacrifice our livelihoods and, with them,
the very idea of Canada itself.
If we want to save this country, we need substantial reforms to the way
this country is governed.
Thankfully, the Saskatchewan government's paper also proposes some
solutions that include:
- Provincial legislation to clarify and protect constitutional rights
belonging to the province.
- Pursuing greater autonomy over immigration policy to ensure
Saskatchewan has the people it needs.
- Better recognition of Saskatchewan industry's contributions to
sustainable growth – for example, developing a carbon credit market to
support our natural resource industries.
- Preparing to take legal actions, legislative or otherwise, to
maintain control of electricity, fertilizer emission/use targets and oil
and gas emissions/production.
Here at Project Confederation, we're very supportive of these ideas - in
fact, many of them are ideas we've been promoting not just for Alberta, but
for all of the west, since we launched as an organization.
So, props to Scott Moe and the Saskatchewan government for pushing us down
the right path.
With your continued support, we can't help but be excited about what we
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