Comparing counts of coal plants is interesting but it focuses on coal - and
coal is not the problem. CO2 is the problem. Same goes for the protest group
“Just Stop Oil” who are defacing art works and gluing themselves to walls. Oil
is not the problem. CO2 is the problem.
If you look, I believe you will find that all of the new coal plants are being
built with CO2 scrubbers using capture and sequestration technology. This
technology is also being retrofitted on older plants too. The most recent
refinery built in Canada, the Sturgeon Refinery at Redwater, Alberta captures
100% of the CO2, pipes it to the area around Acme and injects it into depleted
oil reservoirs in stable geological formations with tight seals. As a side
benefit the CO2 adds pressure to the reservoir and allows additional oil to be
recovered that was not economically or technically possible before.
See Northwest Refining: http://www.nwrefining.com/
Here are a few references on coal scrubbing technology showing progress over
the past 12 years. What I wonder is why none of this ever turns up in our
treasured newspapers and TV News “stories”. Probably isn’t sensational enough.
2010 – World Energy Conference, Montreal - TECHNOLOGY OPTIONS FOR CLEAN COAL
POWER GENERATION WITH CO2 CAPTURE:
https://www.osti.gov/etdeweb/servlets/purl/21397640
2013 – MIT - MIT Creates ‘Plug-and-Play’ CO2 Scrubber for Existing Power
Plants:
https://www.environmentalleader.com/2013/06/mit-creates-plug-and-play-co2-scrubber-for-existing-power-plants/
2019 – Science Daily - Carbon-capture technology scrubs CO2 from power plants
like scuba-diving gear
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2019/01/190131113834.htm
2022 – National Institute of Standards & Technology (NIST - part of the US
Department of Commerce) - This Simple Material Could Scrub Carbon Dioxide from
Power Plant Smokestacks
https://www.nist.gov/news-events/news/2022/11/simple-material-could-scrub-carbon-dioxide-power-plant-smokestacks
Coal and natural gas are becoming cleaner and will still be viable for a long
time to produce clean electrical energy. There are scrubbers in development for
diesel generators and for commercial shipping that burns Bunker-C fuel.
Scrubbers also appear viable for long haul trucking because the trucks (called
“Tractors”) can carry the weight of the compressors and containment tanks and
the cost is small potatoes when the Tractor unit alone can cost upwards of
$300K. Of course there needs to be infrastructure to offload and dispose of the
CO2 but that is expected to be a profitable service addition and economically
viable to add to shipping ports and to truck stops. The bigger problems remain
personal automobiles (where scrubber cost is prohibitive) and aircraft (where
any added weight is a challenge).
Despite some of the pessimism on this discussion group, I am watching these
developments and am optimistic that my grandchildren will have a world to
inherit and that it won’t be a wasteland. Perhaps many of the bright young
people who got laid off this month from tech companies will find more
meaningful employment solving some of these problems. I can’t see that spending
their time producing new and exotic ways to get me to click on advertising has
challenged their intellects or has contributed much to society.
Cheers,
Bob T
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Subject: FW: Canadian delusions.
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Subject: Fwd: Canadian delusions.
Fanning the carbon tax discussion.
Wynn
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Subject: Fwd: Canadian delusions.
Love it! Liberal logic at its best with chief Turdeau running the show. Next
we need to shut down oil altogether and go all electric.
World Wide Coal Plants - Oh Canada
OH COME ON NOW, DO YOU BELIEVE IN THE CARBON TAX?
Hmmm - saving the planet - here we go! Here's a small sample of how many coal
plants there are in the world today.
The EU has 468 plants, building 27 more for a total of 495.
Turkey has 56 plants, building 93 more for a total of 149.
South Africa has 79, building 24 more for a total of 103.
India has 589, building 446 more for a total of 1036.
Philippines has 19, building 60 more for a total of 79.
South Korea has 58, building 26 more for a total of 84.
Japan has 90, building 45 more for a total of 135.
AND CHINA has 2363, building 1171 more for a total of 3534.
We are in luck!! Here come our CANADIAN politicians who are going to shut down
our 15 remaining plants and save the planet!
That makes a total of 5615 worldwide at least, and Canada will shut down 15 to
save the world. What the hell are we smoking? Go read the ‘Subject’ again.
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With regards
Bob & Elaine
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