Why do you think i like my friesians so much. No white!!! I will post pics and such of the carriage and horses at the weekend as i am at work at the moment for those who were interested in my carriage and asked for more details etc. I am sure i have more detailed pics. I would love to live in the Amish community. Imagine no rat race, transport by horse, idyllic don't you think. Regards Dianne Setterington N2Horsn@xxxxxxx wrote: Yes the video was very cool. The music made them seem even more awesome. How do they lift those huge harnesses on them? In sections. The hardest part is the scotch collar. I was told they can weigh about 75 pounds alone. Then they put the hames and tugs (traces with heel chains), saddle, breeching, etc. on separately. Sure, it's a lot of harness to clean, but chrome is SO much easier to keep polished and shiny than brass. The hardest cleaning job the draft drivers have is the ones who have white feathers to clean (Shires and Clydes). They bring rubber mats to stand them on, they soap and scrub and powder and brush and on and on and on... ~cheers, Wendy www.martiniranchcarriages.com --------------------------------- Copy addresses and emails from any email account to Yahoo! Mail - quick, easy and free. Do it now...