Charles, There is a marine shop at Lake Texoma where I buy mine. If you want to drive there, email me privately and I'll give you directions. I also recommend the snap shackles or tack shackle, as mine are called. Much quicker to get out of a mess. Helen Roeder Sunshine Pony Farm, El Hasa Sport Ponies and www.drivingpairs.com _________________________________________________________ To Unsubscribe, change to Digest or Vacation mode go to: http://www.drivingpairs.com/dpmem.html `````````````````````````````````````````````````````````