Was I a beginner and made mistakes? "Made"? , I still make them! And beginner? In many ways I still am one. I don't intend to casting stones nor condeming anybody, but I also don't go on a research journey, if perhaps somebody meant something differently than he wrote. I respond to what is posted and when somebody posts that many people told him not to do what he plans to do, but he'll do it anyhow and now we should pray for him, or that he wouldn't do what he plans to do with regular horses, but since these are only minis then he can, or that he is a trainer's worst nightmare, then I do speak up. I think those of us with a little more experience have a responsibility for not idly standing by when we read some of these plans of some of our beginners, which are going to not only hurt them but also their animals and may also endanger others around them. I also realize that some of our friends are probably beyond our reach when they write about their plans and include already that many other experienced people told them not to do what they plan to do, neverthelss, they still insist. Those we probably and unfortunately won't reach, but we should warn others that those are not good plans. Naturally many don't think of themselves of falling into this category and some object when being told. Horses are wonderful creatures when handled properly, but as most of us know horses sports can also be dangerous. Many of us know the warning: "GREEN AND GREEN GIVE BLACK AND BLUE." That's coming from riding, and for those that don't know it, they talk about unexperienced riders getting into accidents with unexperienced horses. In driving we have one more very important ingredient, our equipment, which is much more involved than for a rider, more expensive than most riding equipment, and therefore prone to being cut short by beginners. In addition, driving acidents often get much more out of hand and then become much more dangerous than riding accidents, not only for the the rider / driver, but unfortunately even more so for innocent bystanders and the animals. Thus it is important that especially beginners understand this: We have three ingredients: Driver, Horse(s), Equipment! Ideally al three should be experienced and proper, however, we can make do with only two of the above but then need to be extremely careful. Thus an experienced driver can start a new horse with good equipment and great care. Or with an experienced horse and good equipment a beginner can learn with the help of an experienced person. Or an experienced driver with well trained horses can also work at times with jury rigged equipment, but in each case, we know that we have to be careful. However, if two of the above ingredients are not proper, then we are in the real danger zone, and when all three are not proper, than it becomes a red flag alert and an accident waiting to happen. Unfortunately some of the posts lately showed all signs of such red flag alerts. And yes, I know, many have done it and survided to tell the story, but I also know of many where it became real ugly. INEXPERIENCED DRIVERS WITH INEXPERIENCED ANIMALS AND JURY RIGGED EQUIPMENT EXPERIMENTING ON THEIR OWN WITHOUT EXPERIENCED HELP IS A GURANTEE FOR ABUSED ANIMALS AND ACCIDENTS. Accidents and animal abuse must be avoided. Trying to help with that is why I contribute to this list. Hardy _________________________________________________________ To Unsubscribe, change to Digest or Vacation mode go to: http://www.drivingpairs.com/dpmem.html `````````````````````````````````````````````````````````